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Did I nail it?
Posted on 10/26/25 at 11:26 pm
Posted on 10/26/25 at 11:26 pm
From four years ago:
- Mediocre to terrible at offensive game planning and game management. Head-scratching playcalling. Often has no Plan B, much less Plan C, when Plan A isn't working on offense.
- Will often leave more talented and even game-breaking players on the bench in favor of lesser-talented - and in some cases, far less talented - players he considers more fundamentally sound.
- Plays not to lose instead of playing aggressively to win.
- Often struggles to beat teams that have far less talent and gets blown out in big games. Very poor record against Top 10 teams.
General comments:
- You will find BK is not a nice guy. You can justify it by saying nice guys finish last, and he's there not to make friends and his job is to win. And I would agree with that. Just telling you what you're getting.
- In summary, you will be happy with your new coach for a while. But unless he makes some fundamental changes to how he goes about things, you are likely in for what we experienced: Playing down to the competition and not being competitive against the Alabamas and Georgias, or any other team that is legit. But as I said, there's a balance. He's a proven winner and will win you a lot of games. Will he take you to the mountaintop once again? Personally, I doubt it.
- Mediocre to terrible at offensive game planning and game management. Head-scratching playcalling. Often has no Plan B, much less Plan C, when Plan A isn't working on offense.
- Will often leave more talented and even game-breaking players on the bench in favor of lesser-talented - and in some cases, far less talented - players he considers more fundamentally sound.
- Plays not to lose instead of playing aggressively to win.
- Often struggles to beat teams that have far less talent and gets blown out in big games. Very poor record against Top 10 teams.
General comments:
- You will find BK is not a nice guy. You can justify it by saying nice guys finish last, and he's there not to make friends and his job is to win. And I would agree with that. Just telling you what you're getting.
- In summary, you will be happy with your new coach for a while. But unless he makes some fundamental changes to how he goes about things, you are likely in for what we experienced: Playing down to the competition and not being competitive against the Alabamas and Georgias, or any other team that is legit. But as I said, there's a balance. He's a proven winner and will win you a lot of games. Will he take you to the mountaintop once again? Personally, I doubt it.
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Posted on 10/26/25 at 11:27 pm to MarkGolf
take a victory lap Irish 
Posted on 10/26/25 at 11:28 pm to MarkGolf
Not bad
6.9/10
6.9/10
Posted on 10/26/25 at 11:28 pm to MarkGolf
yes, well said
Posted on 10/26/25 at 11:28 pm to MarkGolf
BK did way better at ND and Cincinnati than LSU. For all the bad things you wrote, he had a ton of success prior to LSU. Maybe the game has passed him by
Posted on 10/26/25 at 11:29 pm to MarkGolf
quote:
Mediocre to terrible at offensive game planning and game management. Head-scratching playcalling. Often has no Plan B, much less Plan C, when Plan A isn't working on offense. - Will often leave more talented and even game-breaking players on the bench in favor of lesser-talented - and in some cases, far less talented - players he considers more fundamentally sound. - Plays not to lose instead of playing aggressively to win.
the fricking similarities to the Les Miles era
Posted on 10/26/25 at 11:29 pm to MarkGolf
Posted on 10/26/25 at 11:30 pm to MarkGolf
No.
quote:Had a good offense, top 5 offense of all time, above average offense, and horrendous offense.
- Mediocre to terrible at offensive game planning and game management. Head-scratching playcalling. Often has no Plan B, much less Plan C, when Plan A isn't working on offense.
quote:No. Played tons of freshman and underclassmen to the point where upperclassmen transferred. His offensive coordinator is retarded, though.
- Will often leave more talented and even game-breaking players on the bench in favor of lesser-talented - and in some cases, far less talented - players he considers more fundamentally sound.
quote:Not really. We lost multiple games because of aggressive 4th down play calling.
- Plays not to lose instead of playing aggressively to win.
quote:Not really. We've been "blown out" 4 times in 4 years, two of which coming in year 1.
- Often struggles to beat teams that have far less talent and gets blown out in big games. Very poor record against Top 10 teams.
quote:Your shiny new coach has done nothing his predecessor didn't do.
- In summary, you will be happy with your new coach for a while. But unless he makes some fundamental changes to how he goes about things, you are likely in for what we experienced: Playing down to the competition and not being competitive against the Alabamas and Georgias, or any other team that is legit. But as I said, there's a balance. He's a proven winner and will win you a lot of games. Will he take you to the mountaintop once again? Personally, I doubt it
Posted on 10/26/25 at 11:31 pm to MarkGolf
quote:
From four years ago:
Link to that thread for viewing pleasure
quote:
- Excellent judge of talent on the recruiting trail. Is amazing at spotting under-recruited and under-rated players.
- Excellent at developing players, as evidenced by the number of players he's put into the NFL.
- Teams play hard and with passion and effort.
- Hires excellent assistants.
You missed big here
This post was edited on 10/26/25 at 11:38 pm
Posted on 10/26/25 at 11:31 pm to MarkGolf
You always hope someone will grow/learn as they get older.
Obviously, that wasn’t the case with Kelly. Woodward - and most of us, fell for that hope hook, line and sinker…
P.S. Y’all still suck…
Obviously, that wasn’t the case with Kelly. Woodward - and most of us, fell for that hope hook, line and sinker…
P.S. Y’all still suck…
Posted on 10/26/25 at 11:31 pm to MarkGolf
quote:
Plays not to lose instead of playing aggressively to win.
I think he was far too aggressive, especially on 4th down.
Cost us some games.
Posted on 10/26/25 at 11:58 pm to Mr Roboto
quote:
quote:
- Excellent judge of talent on the recruiting trail. Is amazing at spotting under-recruited and under-rated players.
- Excellent at developing players, as evidenced by the number of players he's put into the NFL.
- Teams play hard and with passion and effort.
- Hires excellent assistants.
You missed big here
Guilty as charged concerning LSU!
This post was edited on 10/26/25 at 11:59 pm
Posted on 10/27/25 at 12:00 am to MarkGolf
Posted on 10/27/25 at 12:01 am to PP7 for heisman
quote:
Your shiny new coach has done nothing his predecessor didn't do.
Nice try. Three CFP victories vs. zero. More top 10 wins in three years than BK had in 12. You were saying...?
Posted on 10/27/25 at 12:03 am to MarkGolf
I feel sad for ND ppl. They think they are so vindicated. Meanwhile their new coach lost to northern Illinois, Marshall, only meaningful games this season they have played
Kelly left because ultimately you cannot really succeed at ND. He took a gamble and lost, but we lost too. We are still better off than ND
Kelly left because ultimately you cannot really succeed at ND. He took a gamble and lost, but we lost too. We are still better off than ND
Posted on 10/27/25 at 12:04 am to plance
quote:
You always hope someone will grow/learn as they get older.
Obviously, that wasn’t the case with Kelly. Woodward - and most of us, fell for that hope hook, line and sinker…
P.S. Y’all still suck…
I actually like the LSU program. Hope y'all find a winner. I'd try to get Curt Cignetti as I think he's amazing. And culturally I think he'd fit in great as a former Bama assistant.
Posted on 10/27/25 at 12:07 am to MarkGolf
My brother, just read what you had posted and absolutely nailed it. I was on the Kelly bandwagon till the loss at Vandy based on how poorly coached we looked.
Posted on 10/27/25 at 12:07 am to MarkGolf
You forgot that he faked phony southern accents and liked to grind on recruits but other than that u nailed it.
Posted on 10/27/25 at 12:08 am to PP7 for heisman
quote:
Not really. We've been "blown out" 4 times in 4 years, two of which coming in year 1.
Your definition of blowout must be very different than mine
Posted on 10/27/25 at 12:10 am to LSUButt
quote:
Kelly left because ultimately you cannot really succeed at ND. He took a gamble and lost, but we lost too. We are still better off than ND
The idea isn’t to be better off than ND. Hell OSU just beat them in the title game. Are you saying that LSU should be on equal ground with the Buckeyes? LSU needs to be better off than UGA, Bama, Tennessee, Florida, Ole Piss etc
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