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Can someone explain to me the logic behind withholding the Epstein Files?

Posted on 10/23/25 at 9:54 am
Posted by coop222
Member since Oct 2025
17 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 9:54 am
If Bill Clinton is on them, wouldn't the logical thing be to release the files. Use the files as probable cause to then get warrants and then investigate everyone on the list to the fullest extent?

Does the fact there is a whole cabal of international pedophiles and child sexual offenders getting away free with it not like... disgusting to anyone else?

I don't get it.
This post was edited on 10/23/25 at 9:55 am
Posted by Jrv2damac
KS (mountain time)
Member since Mar 2004
71758 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 9:55 am to
I frankly don’t think you guys can handle a conspiracy theory this hyped up to fizzle like it would.
Posted by Deuces
The bottom
Member since Nov 2011
16214 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 9:55 am to
If they release “the files” and they don’t have information that confirm your suspicions, will you believe it or continue to complain until your thoughts are confirmed?
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Member since Sep 2012
25400 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 9:59 am to
The logic? The billionaires that are on it don't want people to know they diddle kids.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
111830 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 10:04 am to
Because there are likely other people like Trump whose names are mentioned, but where there is zero evidence of knowledge or participation in what was done on that island.

The second they are released, all you will hear from legacy media is: ____________ is "named" in the Epstein files with zero context or explanation.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
85719 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 10:04 am to
My beliefs here:

- (More conspiratorial, but plausible) - The files are littered with IC related references/insinuations. Biden was hamstrung when Trump's campaign was chattering about them, and now turn about is fair play to some extent. In other words, both parties are unwilling to put that stuff on the street and so whoever is not in power can yap all they want because they know the party with "ability" to release the materials can't do so.

- I also think the "files" are not as meaningful/robust as alleged.

- I think practically, you probably have issues relating to Epstein's wide array of contacts (such as Trump) and putting raw "files" on the street would mean a lot of relatively innocent people who had contact with Epstein for any other reason would get embroiled in this stuff.

- I also think, practically, that the more sordid stuff is tricky because a) many of the victims don't want it out there and b) some of it involves minors, but much of it (ie, videos, etc.) may or may not involve minors/crimes. I think Epstein probably had plenty of above-age women in his orbit too, and they're probably in compromising positions at times, and it's probably not that easy to discern what is what. Either way, government isn't just going to throw all of it to the public.
Posted by slidingstop
Member since Jan 2025
1604 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 10:08 am to
Great thread. Thanks for posting because no one has asked this question yet. This subject and this question hasn't been asked ad nauseum anywere, let alone on this board.

And the question itself is so deep. So cerebral. It really does require community reflection to try and solve.


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coop222
Member since Oct 2025
3 posts


certainly not an alter who is suffering from any form of TDS.
Posted by Rhio
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2013
1421 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 10:08 am to
It would bring down both political parties and probably several other billionaires, congressman, senators, and world leaders.

I’m all for that personally, but I know that whoever does try to release them is probably just as guilty. It’s just not going to happen.
Posted by Average_Comments
ATX
Member since Jan 2024
206 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 10:11 am to
I love responses like this. What to broadent the tent. This is like wanting to arm wrestle over who is more MAGA....you win!
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
Member since Jan 2007
5534 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 10:12 am to
Are you 7?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
292704 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 10:13 am to
quote:


The logic? The billionaires that are on it don't want people to know they diddle kids.



Absolutely.

Government is covering for their donors.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
24845 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 10:14 am to
Posted by slidingstop
Member since Jan 2025
1604 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 10:14 am to
Or maybe, just maybe, there isn't anything legitimately damning in the files? As stated previously, there may be names but no actual record of what was done by whom to whom. Not dismissing the files and certainly not shielding any kid diddlers from accountability. But what if there isn't anything other than a manifest or guest list to the files? We'd have names but no "evidence".

Or, more likely, some of the people on the list have assured whoever releases the files that they and their families will be dead within a week of exposure.
Posted by Stat M Repairman
Member since Jun 2023
778 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 10:14 am to
quote:

I don't get it.


Like covid … it’s a lie so big that if everyone is responsible … then nobody is responsible.

They’ve come out and told people already that the truth is too much to handle.
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
16959 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 10:15 am to
If the files have damning evidence on rich, famous powerful people, then why would you want to give it away?

You can hold this over their heads to keep them in line.

I suspect that is what’s going on.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
47745 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 10:15 am to
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I don't get it.

the only acceptable answer is that there are a lot of confidentiality problems with releasing all that - national security related.

I would like to know also but it is not anything close to something I lose sleep over or obsess about on a chat board.

Much larger injustices have gone untouched and unreported that I give a lot more importance to than private behavior of old fat bureaucrats.

Yea - I'd like to know - but I think I'll just go get another cup of coffee.
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
30655 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 10:16 am to
I’ve got a few theories:

1) Trump is using it to hold over powerful men in order to control them to stay out of their way so he can implement his agenda.

2) Rich donors are implicated so the elite is protecting their own.

3) Israel holds all the cards and is using it to blackmail the west.
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
Member since Dec 2010
7104 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 10:16 am to
quote:

I don't get it.


With politics as polarized as they currently are, is there any issue we’ve seen both parties agree on?

I can only think of one



There in lies the answer



Posted by texas tortilla
houston
Member since Dec 2015
3961 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 10:42 am to
the true bad guys in the epstein files are not the men who had sex with young women although they are trash. it is the mossad for using the videos as blackmail. trump doesn't want to give israel another blackeye. like the old joke, you set a trap and bait it with pussy, you liable to catch anyone.
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ted cruz wasn't thinking of epstein when he said this.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
84980 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 10:50 am to
Everyone already knows Bill Clinton likes young women and no one cares.

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