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Advice: job opening with current company
Posted on 10/20/25 at 10:45 am
Posted on 10/20/25 at 10:45 am
Currently a construction estimator with planning and scheduling experience. Since December I've been working on some long range planning scope for a pretty significant project even though it is not my official role. This scope has gotten increasingly more time consuming and things have reached a point where I am no longer able to do both jobs and the company has decided to hire someone to take over one of the two roles. I was given a choice to return to my official position (estimating) or move permanently into the planning position that I've been working for the past year, and they would hire someone to cover whichever I do not choose. The planning position is much more advanced for my experience level but I feel that I've done a pretty good job especially considering they offered me the position permanently. I asked if it would come with a salary increase and was told no, that it would only be lateral. I declined it. Well now they have posted the position online at a higher pay grade than my current position.
How should I handle this? I'm tempted to apply to the position and confront management stating that I am interested if it is a higher pay grade. I've been performing the work for the past year already and felt that i was being underpaid because it is an advanced position. I actually do prefer the planning role anyway.
My problem is that I think I am still paid pretty well for my experience level ($120k base plus OT and bonuses, 8-9 years of exp) and I'm not sure that I could leave the company and find better. But being on the estimating side, I can see what we are paying others. Any new hire is immediately coming in and making more than existing personnel which I understand is pretty typical. But it is frustrating seeing guys come in and make significantly more than you only for management to quickly learn that they are airheads and relegate them to mindless data entry and software operation work while the more critical work gets thrown to lower paid existing employees
How should I handle this? I'm tempted to apply to the position and confront management stating that I am interested if it is a higher pay grade. I've been performing the work for the past year already and felt that i was being underpaid because it is an advanced position. I actually do prefer the planning role anyway.
My problem is that I think I am still paid pretty well for my experience level ($120k base plus OT and bonuses, 8-9 years of exp) and I'm not sure that I could leave the company and find better. But being on the estimating side, I can see what we are paying others. Any new hire is immediately coming in and making more than existing personnel which I understand is pretty typical. But it is frustrating seeing guys come in and make significantly more than you only for management to quickly learn that they are airheads and relegate them to mindless data entry and software operation work while the more critical work gets thrown to lower paid existing employees
This post was edited on 10/20/25 at 10:48 am
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Posted on 10/20/25 at 10:55 am to Yeti_Chaser
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How should I handle this?
Find a new job or don’t say shite. This has bad news written all over it.
You’re right, you’re getting absolutely boned, but somebody has to be the hammer and somebody has to be the nail as Leslie Edwin Miles once said
Posted on 10/20/25 at 11:25 am to Yeti_Chaser
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Any new hire is immediately coming in and making more than existing personnel which I understand is pretty typical.
Typical for who?
Nobody shows up in my org and makes more than someone who's already been here at the same level.
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How should I handle this?
Simply apply. Update your resume with what you've been doing in the same role. Worst case they turn you down.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 11:32 am to thegreatboudini
That is not worst case scenario considering he already turned it down. This is a no win situation.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 11:33 am to thegreatboudini
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Typical for who?
Like every industry over at least the last decade? This has been covered extensively. Not only does job hopping typically get a higher salary than tenured employees, it often comes with a signing bonus
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Nobody shows up in my org and makes more than someone who's already been here at the same level.
I find this extremely hard to believe
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Worst case they turn you down.
This is absolutely not the worst case
Posted on 10/20/25 at 11:42 am to Yeti_Chaser
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I'm tempted to apply to the position and confront management stating that I am interested if it is a higher pay grade.
Absolutely do this. If you were told it would not come with an increase in pay, but they are advertising as such, then you should get some clarification. Otherwise, you're going to be stuck wondering and possibly begin resenting the company.
They'd be foolish to not get you in the role and pay you. You already have the knowledge. Unless you've been sucking at it...which it doesn't sound like you have been...if they offered you the role.
Weird situation.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 11:52 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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I find this extremely hard to believe
Color me shocked, mango has an opinion about my business.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 11:57 am to Yeti_Chaser
I would not apply; it is too passive aggressive of a move. I would bring it up to whoever told you the new position would not result in an increase and ask them to clarify their original statement or their understanding of your current compensation.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 12:12 pm to thegreatboudini
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Color me shocked, mango has an opinion about my business.
THE HORROR
Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:32 pm to Weekend Warrior79
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I would not apply; it is too passive aggressive of a move. I would bring it up to whoever told you the new position would not result in an increase and ask them to clarify their original statement or their understanding of your current compensation.
This right here is the way to go!
Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:41 pm to Weekend Warrior79
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I would not apply; it is too passive aggressive of a move. I would bring it up to whoever told you the new position would not result in an increase and ask them to clarify their original statement or their understanding of your current compensation.
This is 100% the correct way to go about it.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 2:42 pm to Yeti_Chaser
Do you have any job prospects for a similar promotion with another company? If you’re feeling undervalued because they offered you less than market rate for a promotion, and you were offered this promotion based on your work experience, then it sounds like it would be reasonable to find an organization that appropriately values you. Especially at this stage where your planning experience is still fresh.
If you are not willing or interested in changing employers, then maybe you can think of it this way: you have attached some value to continuity and being comfortable with your employer, and the higher pay grade for the new position reflects a premium to draw another candidate with no continuity or familiarity with your employer.
If you are not willing or interested in changing employers, then maybe you can think of it this way: you have attached some value to continuity and being comfortable with your employer, and the higher pay grade for the new position reflects a premium to draw another candidate with no continuity or familiarity with your employer.
Posted on 11/4/25 at 7:55 am to Weekend Warrior79
Update: I took this advice and confronted management asking for clarification and permission to apply. It was a really weird conversation where they tried to dance around the issue and act surprised that I would suddenly be interested after I turned it down, despite me explicitly stating the reason I'm now interested is because of the higher pay. I left the conversation with no real info but i did go apply to the job and got a call from HR offering a pay raise.
I'm glad that I brought it up. If i had just let it go it probably would've festered and resulted in me despising my management and looking for a new job.
I'm glad that I brought it up. If i had just let it go it probably would've festered and resulted in me despising my management and looking for a new job.
This post was edited on 11/4/25 at 7:57 am
Posted on 11/4/25 at 8:30 am to Yeti_Chaser
Glad it worked out for you and congratulations on the pay raise.
Posted on 11/4/25 at 8:31 am to Yeti_Chaser
Glad it worked out for you.
A conversation with the right people makes a difference.
A conversation with the right people makes a difference.
This post was edited on 11/4/25 at 8:33 am
Posted on 11/4/25 at 8:35 am to Yeti_Chaser
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Update: I took this advice and confronted management asking for clarification and permission to apply. It was a really weird conversation where they tried to dance around the issue and act surprised that I would suddenly be interested after I turned it down, despite me explicitly stating the reason I'm now interested is because of the higher pay. I left the conversation with no real info but i did go apply to the job and got a call from HR offering a pay raise.
I'm glad that I brought it up. If i had just let it go it probably would've festered and resulted in me despising my management and looking for a new job.
I'm glad this is working out for you. Don't want to sow dissent but I would be very distrustful of management. The efforts you had to go through to get the respect you deserve would make me wonder why. I would go ahead and do the job with a smile at the new rate for awhile (maybe forever) but would also polish up the resumé and put some feelers out to see what's available at your new position in the marketplace.
Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:04 am to Yeti_Chaser
company STAAAAAAAAAAAAAACKED
yeti chaser FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACKED
seriously tho
i would inquire albeit nicely and professionally. The bad part about this is some of these clowns get mad and take it personal. If you sense this go find another job. why? because if you piss them off they may come after you then to get rid of you. However i agree, it is not fair to tell you no raise in pay then offer a higher grade to all applicants after you said no. they cannot have it both ways but just be prepared to walk away.
over 25 years ago i was promised a job after 3 months going through a staffing agency. When time was up i inquired, They got mad and fired me. So be prepared. it can go south any moment over the slightest thing even if you are TECHNICALLY correct.
or do not say shite and keep working until you find another job.
yeti chaser FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACKED
seriously tho
i would inquire albeit nicely and professionally. The bad part about this is some of these clowns get mad and take it personal. If you sense this go find another job. why? because if you piss them off they may come after you then to get rid of you. However i agree, it is not fair to tell you no raise in pay then offer a higher grade to all applicants after you said no. they cannot have it both ways but just be prepared to walk away.
over 25 years ago i was promised a job after 3 months going through a staffing agency. When time was up i inquired, They got mad and fired me. So be prepared. it can go south any moment over the slightest thing even if you are TECHNICALLY correct.
or do not say shite and keep working until you find another job.
This post was edited on 11/4/25 at 9:18 am
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