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Fed Investments of 9 Billion has a return of 17 Billion.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 9:24 am
Posted on 10/14/25 at 9:24 am
This is an interesting thread started on the PT. Though I would bring that here.
As pointed out there, this is not the Fed Gov owning the companies as the investments give the FED NON voting shares.
Is this the way?
As pointed out there, this is not the Fed Gov owning the companies as the investments give the FED NON voting shares.
Is this the way?
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Posted on 10/14/25 at 9:29 am to BCreed1
If only they would do this with my social security.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 9:31 am to BCreed1
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Is this the way?
Hell no. Our government has no business buying shares in companies. Zero, zilch, nada.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 9:45 am to BCreed1
So having the ability to simultaneously manipulate and invest in the markets is profitable? Liberation Day tariffs make more sense in that scope.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 9:48 am to BCreed1
I hear they’re gonna put gold toilets in the White House
Posted on 10/14/25 at 10:04 am to frogtown
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Hell no. Our government has no business buying shares in companies. Zero, zilch, nada.
Why not?
Posted on 10/14/25 at 10:21 am to BCreed1
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Why not?
Because it’s anti-capitalist, anti-free market bullshite that’s the first step down the path to communism?
Posted on 10/14/25 at 10:23 am to Joshjrn
Non voting shares takes us down that path? Where is the gov control over the business in that?
Posted on 10/14/25 at 10:27 am to BCreed1
while I like the return, its not surprising that the govt picking and choosing companies to invest billions in, thus retail investors following, and pumped these returns up.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 10:28 am to BCreed1
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Why not?
Government deals in "public goods"
This is the public provision of what can be deemed a "non public" good. There is a defintion for that. It starts with a "s".
This post was edited on 10/14/25 at 10:59 am
Posted on 10/14/25 at 10:30 am to DawgCountry
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while I like the return, its not surprising that the govt picking and choosing companies to invest billions in, thus retail investors following, and pumped these returns up.
It's like I said in the other thread. The USA has always invested in companies via bailouts. I do not know of a President that has not done that.
The difference here is the tax payers can actually see a return and hopefully lowering taxes.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 10:34 am to BCreed1
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It's like I said in the other thread. The USA has always invested in companies via bailouts. I do not know of a President that has not done that.
The difference here is the tax payers can actually see a return and hopefully lowering taxes.
I haven't formed an opinion one way or another, but I wouldn't trust Biden to use my tax dollars to invest in companies. What happens if a president decides to nefariously use the stock purchase option. I can see several possibilities for the program to be misused.
Bailouts are ridiculous though. They donated money to corporations without any expectation of return.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 10:35 am to BCreed1
They paying capital gains tax on that? Lol
Posted on 10/14/25 at 10:40 am to WhiskeyThrottle
Very true. I don't particularly like it. But based on our history of bailouts and propping up industries, I'm leaning towards this.
So long as the gov does not have control of the companies. Non voting shares would be the way to go.
Now, if we were not bailing out businesses....
So long as the gov does not have control of the companies. Non voting shares would be the way to go.
Now, if we were not bailing out businesses....
Posted on 10/14/25 at 10:41 am to BillysIsland
Hell of a question! I don't know the answer
Posted on 10/14/25 at 10:42 am to Joshjrn
You must really hate the tariffs then
Posted on 10/14/25 at 10:47 am to HogPharmer
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If only they would do this with my social security.
This is how it starts, and tariffs. Along with the mass deportation of illegals sucking up SS, Medicare and Medicaid dollars.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 10:53 am to HogPharmer
Should have done this from the start or let the citizens pick a target fund. An average return of 2% with inflation is bad.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 11:04 am to DawgCountry
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while I like the return, its not surprising that the govt picking and choosing companies to invest billions in, thus retail investors following, and pumped these returns up.
Yeah this is basically manipulation.
Government should not be in the business of picking winners and losers.
Plus what happens when the company goes out of business, is the government first in line for assets during liquidation.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 11:09 am to UltimaParadox
But we are and have been most of our history.
Right?
Right?
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