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Why is it not TIME to INVOKE the Insurrection Act in Sanctuary Cities?

Posted on 10/11/25 at 8:08 am
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 10/11/25 at 8:08 am
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It turns out that the Constitution provides the framework, specifically the Article II, Section 2, and supremacy clause of Article 6, to put down the current city and state rebellions in California, Oregon, Illinois, and some 12 other states claiming “sanctuary” status.

Another powerful source of wisdom and insight into our contemporary problems is George Washington’s Farewell Address of 1797. Here we find Washington uniquely prescient in five critical areas that are now the bane of our contemporary problems:

The likelihood that the people would fail to be adequately informed and educated to discern the truth and fulfill the duties and responsibility of citizenship.

The rise of political parties and hyperpartisan factionalism that would lead to "cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men" manipulating public opinion, fostering discord, and prioritizing party loyalty over the common good.

The erosion of checks and balances through usurpation of power by one of the three branches of government, notably the judicial branch.

Foreign entanglements that provide avenues for domestic factions to become aligned with foreign powers.

The decline of morality and religion, notably Christianity, deemed essential to maintaining civility, public virtue, individual freedom, and the free governance of a constitutional republic.

Washington cautioned that excessive partisanship could lead to political parties or groups with diametrically opposed interests -- prioritizing their own agendas over the common good, which would also lead to division and animosity among citizens. He specifically warned that factions could make the nation vulnerable to foreign manipulation, as external powers might exploit internal divisions to influence U.S. policy. Washington emphasized the importance of national border integrity through his focus on national unity, sovereignty, and the rule of law.

Washington’s assertion 230 years ago that, "The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension... is itself a frightful despotism" describes the reality that now exists in 2025. We have unreconcilable hostility between political parties, and “judicial despotism,” which is now undermining President Trump’s popular mandate to deport illegal aliens We are witnessing persecution of Christians and Jews, brought into full relief in aftermath of the assassination of Charlie Kirk -- a uniquely likeable and capable young national Christian leader.........

Consider the three most plausible reasons why the United States was flooded with some 15-20 million illegal aliens: 1) To change the voting demographics with the objective to increase likely Democrat voters; 2) To advance a Cloward-Piven strategy of bankrupting the United States by radically increasing costs for social welfare spending born by the federal government; and 3) To enlarge the “fifth columns” within the U.S. from foreign entrants, including members of Hezb’allah, Tren de Aragua, MS-13, Barrio 18, the Sinaloa Cartel, and the red-green alliance of communists and radical Islamists within the country, to be positioned to engage in a range of active measures against the United States -- from militant attacks on law enforcement agencies such as Immigration and Customs Enforcement ICE, the DEA and DHS to more destructive terrorist attacks.


It Is TIME!!
This post was edited on 10/11/25 at 8:27 am
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
53274 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 8:20 am to
A couple of possible reasons I can think of

1 None of the Generals want this to happen, so they are all advising against this.

2 Trump's legal advisers are advising that this would be illegal and stopped immediately by a federal judge, so, it would be an embarrassment to Trump and do nothing else

#2 Is likely to happen. Some federal judge would surely rule invocation of the Insurrection Act to be Illegal.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
17199 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 8:24 am to
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#2 Is likely to happen. Some federal judge would surely rule invocation of the Insurrection Act to be Illegal.


"The erosion of checks and balances through usurpation of power by one of the three branches of government, notably the judicial branch" was certainly noted in Washington's speech."

People act as if we have evolved much since that speech.

We have not!!
This post was edited on 10/11/25 at 8:29 am
Posted by Champagne
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Member since Oct 2007
53274 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 8:27 am to
Perhaps when a federal judge acts outside legal boundaries to prevent POTUS from performing official duties of State, the Insurrection Act would allow the US military to arrest that judge.

I might like to see that.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
38517 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 8:30 am to
Well it’s what Trump is doing, in effect. Corralling the insurrectionists. Just without giving the Dems/MSM their ‘Muh Dictator’ narrative.

I hope the Feds are charging these people with Felony Federal Crimes such that there will be jail time and a record for future reference. And take prosecutions out of Local hands. A lot will give it up if that is so.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
17199 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 8:42 am to
I do know he has used the words "Insurrection Act" in several conversations and quite possibly to inform others what tools are available to the POTUS. Even the meeting with the Generals and Admirals a few days ago involved language regarding domestic hostility.

What George Washington mentioned in his 240 plus years ago speech is obviously "in our faces" today.

Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
38517 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 8:51 am to
Had there been Media and Social Media back then, Td, I’m not sure there would have been a revolution and Constitutional Republic. Given the Marxist ideology card, a Democratic Socialist Republic is more likely. Which is what we ‘informally’ are today, indirectly so.
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
5405 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 8:56 am to
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the Insurrection Act would allow the US military to arrest that judge. I might like to see that.


You don’t understand the repercussions of that happening
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
17199 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 9:01 am to
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You don’t understand the repercussions of that happening


That is always their argument. There are 3 equal branches of government and when one is usurping power, as Washington pointed out then which one it would be, that power must be removed.

When was the last time a Federal Judge was impeached? When was the last time a SCOTUS Justice was physically threatened?

Posted by Wraytex
San Antonio - Gonzales
Member since Jun 2020
3431 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 9:02 am to
I'm actually fine with the leftists making their S-holes perpetual no go zones for the majority of Americans. Those same Americans need to see what happens in middle to late stage leftism and then vote accordingly.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
53274 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 9:02 am to
There's no way to arrest Judges. The Left knew that. That's why they conquered the Judiciary right after they conquered the educational system.

Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
5405 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 9:06 am to
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That is always their argument. There are 3 equal branches of government and when one is usurping power, as Washington pointed out then which one it would be, that power must be removed.


I mean the argument can be made it’s the Executive Branch in this example that’s usurping power
This post was edited on 10/11/25 at 9:08 am
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
17199 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 9:10 am to
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I mean the argument can be made it’s the Executive Branch in this example that’s usurping power



Please, please, by all means do tell!!
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
18950 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 9:53 am to
They’re baiting him.

If I was Trump I’d focus my activities on red and swing states. Let CA and WA and OR stew in their own anarchy.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
17199 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 9:54 am to
Which is why we must end all of these government "regulations" used primarily to drive an economy. Turn the free enterprise system that built this country back on.

Competition is good and markets will adjust to benefit those who offer the very best.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
38517 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 10:33 am to
Which is why we must end all of these government "regulations" used primarily to drive an economy. Turn the free enterprise system that built this country back on.

Competition is good and markets will adjust to benefit those who offer the very best.”(quote Td).

Then what happens re the “hamburger flippers” and current psychologically dysfunctional demographic that are essentially unemployable? The large group that did not win in “life’s lottery “ (no God narrative) and whose lives will essentially be a one way street to spiritual ’slavery’ and their ultimate embracing of Socialist/“social justice “ ideology. Not to mention the Christian imperative re “caring for the weakest “?

AI is going to lay out in no uncertain terms the dynamic of the Human survival and prosperity scenario. Both Worldly (Darwinian v Secular ‘Morality’) and Spiritual (God based Morality). And if Humanity cannot finesse this Universal Connundrum then given the High Tech advance of weaponry, we will fight it out and likely go the ‘Fermi Paradox’ way. Justice minus mercy, nonetheless. Unless of course the Biblical Narrative is true, and the “Savior “ steps in to save us from ourselves. That is our best hope, imo.
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Flyover, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2019
8607 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 10:39 am to
Washington cautioned that excessive partisanship could lead to political parties or groups with diametrically opposed interests -- prioritizing their own agendas over the common good, which would also lead to division and animosity among citizens.

It’s as if Washington knew what he was talking about.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
17199 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 10:51 am to
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33192 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 10:55 am to
How easily history is forgotten

The entire Civil War kicked off because the feds secured fed property in Charleston Harbor, and then the newly formed South proceeded to kick them out

All Trump is doing is securing fed properties, and local govts are going all insurrectiony is trying to remove that protection. If it was good enough for ole Abe (one of the top rated prez in US history) then its good enough for Trump
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
38517 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 11:12 am to
AI will do a lot better job than me, T. Just mud on the philosophy wall here, from a hayseed out in the sticks. Too many cow-patty mushrooms could be a factor.

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