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DJT to sign deal w/ Finland to build 11 new icebreaking ships, creating thousands of jobs

Posted on 10/9/25 at 2:12 pm
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
13508 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 2:12 pm
President Donald Trump agreed to a deal with Finland to commission the construction of four icebreaking ships, and the United States will build seven more domestically.

The construction of the seven icebreaking ships, key to Arctic operations with their ability to cut through formidable ice sheets, is expected to create thousands of jobs.

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Trump will sign the deal with Finnish President Alexander Stubb at the White House on Thursday. The deal is expected to strengthen the U.S. presence in the Arctic region as Russia and China’s influence grows there

The U.S. administration has held negotiations directly with companies. It is great that Finnish expertise is trusted. The cooperation benefits Finland and the United States. The agreement would not have been possible without President Trump,” he added..
This post was edited on 10/9/25 at 2:13 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 2:16 pm to
I wonder if Bollinger is going to be in the running for at least one of these contracts? I hope so.
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
11323 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 2:24 pm to
quote:

I wonder if Bollinger is going to be in the running for at least one of these contracts? I hope so.


Bollinger is owned by Gary Chouest.

But North American has built several ice breakers in Larose.

Looks like Bollinger is in the mix for this deal at the Houma yard.

From Fox News:
quote:

Three of the ships will be built by Davie in Galveston, Texas, and four will be built by Bollinger Shipyards in Houma, Louisiana, the official said.

The first ship is expected to be delivered by 2028, the official said.

Trump has consistently called for the United States to acquire as many as 40 new icebreakers to enhance U.S. national security in the Arctic and counter the growing influence of China and Russia.


Fox News
This post was edited on 10/9/25 at 2:25 pm
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
17059 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 2:26 pm to
But, but, but I thought the ice was melting.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
90972 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 2:27 pm to
quote:

build 11 new icebreaking ships


gotta be able to get the ships back & forth year-round to our 52nd state, greenland.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
43783 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 2:30 pm to
quote:

gotta be able to get the ships back & forth year-round to our 52nd state, greenland.


Then why are we partnering with Finland?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 2:32 pm to
Good news.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
90972 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 2:33 pm to
quote:

Then why are we partnering with Finland?
because they are the one with the resources to build icebreakers for us?


eta from what i've seen of greenland, those residents can barely dress themselves much less build ships.
This post was edited on 10/9/25 at 2:34 pm
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
43783 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

because they are the one with the resources to build icebreakers for us?


You do realize that the USA builds icebreakers in south Louisiana don’t you? Why aren’t we building all 11 in the USA?
This post was edited on 10/9/25 at 2:37 pm
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
90972 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 2:36 pm to
quote:

You do realize that the USA builds icebreakers in south Louisiana don’t you?
apparently not fast enough if trump had to go all the way to finland.
Posted by 21blackjack
Member since Oct 2025
1099 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 2:37 pm to
Two thumbs up
Posted by crap4brain
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2004
2660 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 2:47 pm to
quote:

Bollinger is owned by Gary Chouest.

But North American has built several ice breakers in Larose.


Current icebreakers are built by Bollinger in Pascagoula, formerly VT Halter marine which Bollinger bought.
Posted by Slevin7
Member since Sep 2015
2703 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:05 pm to
I thought we wanted more ice

wtf

I can’t keep up
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22185 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:38 pm to
quote:

You do realize that the USA builds icebreakers in south Louisiana don’t you? Why aren’t we building all 11 in the USA?


You are a sourpuss. Maybe this helps a great NATO ally.
Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:47 pm to
quote:

apparently not fast enough if trump had to go all the way to finland.


Yeah, alot of misinformation in this thread. That is what Grok is great for to cut through all the BS.

Current US Icebreaker FleetAs of October 2025, the United States Coast Guard (USCG) operates three active polar icebreakers, which is a significant increase from the pre-2025 fleet of two operational vessels but remains far below the capabilities of competitors like Russia (over 40 icebreakers). These include:

USCGC Polar Star: A heavy icebreaker (commissioned 1976), capable of breaking up to 6 feet of ice at 3 knots; it remains the US's only operational heavy polar icebreaker.

USCGC Healy: A medium icebreaker (commissioned 1999), used primarily for Arctic research and operations.

USCGC Storis: A new medium polar icebreaker, commissioned on August 10, 2025, in Juneau, Alaska—the first new US icebreaker added to the fleet in 25 years. It completed its inaugural Arctic patrol in early October 2025, enhancing immediate operational capacity for national security and scientific missions.

The former heavy icebreaker USCGC Polar Sea (commissioned 1978) has been inactive since 2010 due to engine failures and is not part of the active fleet.

US Ability to Build IcebreakersThe US has limited domestic shipbuilding capacity for icebreakers, stemming from a 50-year hiatus in constructing such specialized vessels (the last was Healy in 1999). This gap has led to significant challenges, including design delays, cost overruns (up to 60% above estimates), and reliance on foreign expertise to accelerate fleet expansion.

Key issues include:

Lack of specialized experience: US shipyards like Bollinger Shipyards (which acquired VT Halter Marine in 2022) are adapting commercial and military designs but face hurdles in polar-specific engineering, such as nuclear or advanced diesel-electric propulsion.

Program delays: The Polar Security Cutter (PSC) program for heavy icebreakers has seen repeated setbacks from COVID-19 impacts, design revisions (based on the unbuilt German Polarstern II), and supply chain issues; the lead ship's design is only ~67% complete after five years.

Cost pressures: Individual ships have ballooned in price (e.g., first PSC at ~$1.7 billion), prompting GAO scrutiny and calls for better affordability analysis.

To address these, the US is pursuing a hybrid approach: limited domestic construction for heavy icebreakers while outsourcing medium ones internationally to "bridge critical capability gaps" and invest in long-term domestic capacity


Recent Construction and Acquisition Numbers

Heavy Polar Icebreakers (PSC Program):

Managed jointly by USCG and US Navy, built domestically by Bollinger Shipyards in Pascagoula, MS.Under construction: 1 (USCGC Polar Sentinel, steel cutting began August 2023; planned launch 2027, but delayed to potential commissioning in 2028–2030).

Planned: 2 more (Polar Bear and Polar Glacier; contracts awarded, total program cost ~$5.1 billion for three ships).

A 2023 USCG fleet mix analysis recommends 4–5 heavy icebreakers total for sustained polar operations.

Medium Polar Icebreakers (Arctic Security Cutters - ASC Program):

Smaller vessels for Arctic patrols; initial plans called for 3 domestically, but expanded via international partnerships.In service: 2 (Healy and Storis).

Under construction/planned: 11 new ASCs authorized in October 2025 under President Trump's "Big Beautiful Bill," costing ~$6.1 billion; these will be built in Finland as a temporary foreign measure to rapidly expand the fleet while boosting US shipyards. Delivery timeline: Aiming for operational status by late 2020s to early 2030s.

Overall, the US aims for a total polar icebreaker fleet of 8–9 vessels (mix of heavy and medium) to meet operational needs, far short of Trump's campaign promise of 40 but aligned with strategic assessments. This expansion is supported by ~$9 billion in recent funding for Coast Guard cutters, including icebreakers. International alliances like the "ICE Pact" (with Finland, Canada, and others) are key to overcoming domestic bottlenecks and ensuring Arctic presence.





This post was edited on 10/9/25 at 3:55 pm
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:48 pm to
NAFO Grok Comrade!
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
79654 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 4:07 pm to
quote:

the USA builds icebreakers in south Louisiana


What do Cajun swamp baws know about ice breakers.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
37748 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 4:31 pm to
quote:

The deal is expected to strengthen the U.S. presence in the Arctic region as Russia and China’s influence grows there



I wish I could find my posts on here about the real battles being online, the arctic, and space.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22185 posts
Posted on 10/9/25 at 4:33 pm to
quote:

What do Cajun swamp baws know about ice breakers.


What LSU marine engineers tell them.
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