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I know prices suck right now but what is a decent average for clear cutting pine.

Posted on 9/30/25 at 10:12 pm
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20472 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 10:12 pm
Let's assume a good healthy planted stand and you have 100 acres.

How much would you take home per acre for pulp, how much for larger trees.

Tia.

Posted by dat yat
Chef Pass
Member since Jun 2011
4867 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 10:25 pm to
One neighbor had 40 acres of 30 yr pines, clearcut about 33 acres of it and got 40K. I thought it was low and would have waited for growth or better prices. His mistake, in myy opinion, was doing a 'pay as cut' in a final harvest.
Posted by da foozball
Member since Nov 2012
661 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 5:31 am to
I spoke with pulpwooder recently and he said there’s no money in pulpwood right now but without thinning the small ones you’ll never have big ones. Which is where the money is.
Posted by Recovered
Member since May 2016
701 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 11:03 am to
Our lease holder is a private equity company. They had 76 acres that needed thinning, the only way they could get a logger to thin was to give up 46 acres of mature hardwood.
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29844 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 11:13 am to
quote:

Let's assume a good healthy planted stand and you have 100 acres.


Need a whole lot more info to get a good answer other than, "it isn't worth as much as it used to be".

Also depends on where your property is located.

I think pine pulp is $5 a ton or less.

Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29844 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 11:25 am to
I just depressed myself by looking at the LDAF reports. 2024 timber harvest was down 37% from 2023. And that's before the Campti mill closed earlier this year (plus whatever other mills have closed)
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
13095 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 11:58 am to
In my area there is almost no market for any timber....if you are clearing land you are most likely going to pay to get it cleared and pay to have it hauled off. Paper recycling is about as simple as it gets and is apparently more efficient than cutting pulp wood. There is almost no building products made from SYP other than trusses and PT lumber and a significant portion of that is being hauled to the mill after the owner paid the logging company to clear it and cut it and the logging company may be better off financially to put it in a landfill than taking it to a mill.

I run a sawmill as a hobby but it is a side hustle. I never pay a penny for a log. I have more quality hardwoods than I can handle. I get 3-4 calls a week from logging companies wanting to know if I can take 10,000 or so BF of oak and poplar....if it is cedar, walnut, cherry or cyprus I will take what I can but pine is straight out. I could get a million BF of 75 YO, high quality SYP saw logs delivered to my mill by the end of the month free of charge. There is almost no market for it at all. The problem I would have is logging companies would find out I had taken that million BF and want to know why I couldn't take theirs....
Posted by Piebald Panther
Member since Aug 2020
609 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 12:13 pm to
We just had a thinning done on one of our leases and it looks like they left 30% of what was cut. Stacks of logs (not tops) just left on the roads.

I'd never seen that much left behind before.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
26991 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 12:41 pm to
quote:

In my area there is almost no market for any timber..


Apparently North Louisiana is still cutting:


New high-tech sawmill dedicated in Northwest Louisiana
September 26, 2025

TAYLOR, La. (From news reports) - Hunt Forest Products, Tolko Industries Ltd. and Louisiana Economic Development Secretary Susan B. Bourgeois has dedicated what's being called Louisiana's newest and most technologically advanced sawmill in Bienville Parish.

The $280 million, state-of-the-art project began construction in 2022 and initial operations in 2023. Today, the facility operates at full capacity and employs approximately 190 people.

"We are very excited about the performance of this mill, our second high-tech sawmill in Louisiana, and especially about the skilled jobs it is providing to local Louisiana residents, and providing a local outlet for the massive inventory of southern yellow pine that exists in this state," said James D. Hunt, Hunt Forest Products co-owner and board vice chairman.

Hunt noted that the facility recently set two new lumber production records, is managing almost 1,000 truckloads of timber a week, and that its decision to prioritize buying timber locally is generating approximately $50 million annually in purchases from local foresters.

"The local economic impact is incredible, and will continue to grow over time," Hunt said.

The mill requires approximately 1.3 million tons of wood annually to produce approximately 320 million board feet of lumber annually, Hunt added. The facility is located on 255 acres of land including the existing Taylor sawmill site and some adjacent timber land.

During the dedication ceremony, Bourgeois state leaders' support of the sawmill project, its significance to the local economy and its role in the economic momentum happening across northwest Louisiana.

"This project is a powerful example of how Louisiana's legacy industries are adopting new technology to strengthen efficiency, enhance safety, and open the door to new opportunities. By building in the heart of our historic timber region, Hunt Forest Products and Tolko have created hundreds of jobs that span construction, forestry, industrial services, and retail--an impact that will benefit the town of Taylor, Bienville Parish, and the families who call this region home for generations to come," Bourgeois said.

Bienville Lumber Company is a joint venture between Hunt Forest Products and Tolko, a 60-year-old family-owned Canadian forestry industry company that produces a wide range of forest products for customers around the world. Tolko, based in Vernon, British Columbia, partnered with Hunt Forest Products to build a modern sawmill in Urania, LA, that began operations in 2018.

Similar to the Urania sawmill, Tolko will own a 50 percent share, and the mill is managed and operated by Hunt on a day-to-day basis.

"The forestry industry has been a vital part of the Bienville Parish and regional economy for more than 100 years, so we're thrilled that Hunt Forest Products and Tolko recognized that North Louisiana is a prime location for companies to grow and succeed and brought this major new economic engine to our community," said Justyn Dixon, North Louisiana Economic Partnership president and CEO.

"We were confident that with the availability of timber and employees, this project was in the right place, at the right time, and that has proven to be true," Hunt said. "This is boosting the local economy, bringing a new generation of sawmill technology to this part of the state, and providing another much-needed outlet for regional Louisiana timber. It's a win-win for everyone."

Posted by alteroviously
77465
Member since Oct 2021
78 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 1:28 pm to
Recent job in East Texas.

Pine Pulpwood 3-inch top $6.00/Ton
Pine Sawtimber 7 inch top Treelength $21.50/ton
Pine Sawtimber 9 inch top MTL $23.45/ton
Pine Chip & Saw 4 & 5 inch top $10.00/ton
Pine Poles 8 inch top $45.00/ton
Hardwood pulpwood 3 inch top $3.00/ton

Netted about 1200 per acre cut. 37 acres cut. We had a good bit of 7" top and poles.

Posted by White Bear
SPECULATION
Member since Jul 2014
17121 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 1:31 pm to
quote:

Netted about 1200 per acre cut.
clear cut?
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20472 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 1:50 pm to
Northern Florida parishes/ SW MS.

Assume it has already been thinned.

Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20472 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 1:51 pm to
When you say give up 46 acres of hardwoods. You mean that had to be included in the cut, not that all the proceeds from the 46 went to the logger correct?
Posted by Recovered
Member since May 2016
701 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 3:27 pm to
Correct.
Posted by KemoSabe65
70605
Member since Mar 2018
6185 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 4:20 pm to
What’s the ROI in pines?
Row crop dirt is 2% so I can’t imagine pines being more.
Puzzles me that people are paying what they are for returns that don’t keep up with inflation.
Posted by Bayou Ken
Member since Sep 2018
163 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 4:54 pm to
I’ve been trying for 2.5 years to get my pines thinned or even clear cut. I Have 70 acres of 21 year old pines in Addition to some mature pines. Beetles killed about 20 acres so I’m down to 50 acres. I’m wanting to improve habitat for deer and I’m not that concerned with making money. I’ve offered loggers my portion of the proceeds($1.75-$2.00 / acre) for pulpwood and offered to let them thin my hardwoods which I would get paid for but no takers. The only mill taking pulpwood is in Vicksburg and they aren’t taking much. If you see a large “Logger Needed” sign on HWY 547 7 miles SE of Pattison, that’s mine. Probably had 10-15 calls but the words pulp wood ends the conversation pretty quickly.
Posted by EagleEye99
Member since Dec 2017
3162 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 5:00 pm to
quote:

There is almost no building products made from SYP other than trusses and PT lumber

Not true at all. Oriented Strand Board (OSB), Medium Density Fiberboard (MDF), plywood, and other engineered lumber are all made from SYP. Not to mention the outlet to wood pellet plant manufacturers.

ETA: The OSB guys are doing all kinds of innovative stuff including fire-rated panels, installing tyvek wrap on board for weather proofing, flooring products, etc...
This post was edited on 10/1/25 at 5:21 pm
Posted by Ron Cheramie
The Cajun Hedgehog
Member since Aug 2016
5517 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 5:27 pm to
Figure $6/ton
30 tons on a log truck
$180 per load is what they would get

Not worth the time or effort unless some big timber is thrown in

Be very surprised is you made any money. May even have a hard time giving it away at these prices
Posted by alteroviously
77465
Member since Oct 2021
78 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 5:46 pm to
Not entirely clear cut. Left all hardwood and cedar.
Posted by White Bear
SPECULATION
Member since Jul 2014
17121 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 6:03 pm to
quote:

Not entirely clear cut. Left all hardwood and cedar.
thx
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