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Shut it down.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 7:42 am
Posted on 9/30/25 at 7:42 am
The clock is ticking and there's not even the hint of a ghost of a deal. Dems are holding up the process by demanding an extra $1.5T in healthcare spending while we're already $37T in debt. Either they are incapable of understanding the basic math that we can't afford things like that any longer or they just don't care because their politics are more important than the fiscal stability of the country. Either way:


Posted on 9/30/25 at 7:43 am to Bard
They’ll shut it down and blame republicans. As per usual
Posted on 9/30/25 at 8:00 am to Bard
Why should I care if the government gets shut down and the people we are trying to fire actually get fired? Seems like a win-win. Can’t wait for some federal judge to force Trump to reopen the government.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 8:02 am to Bard
It's always the same. They hold the country hostage and force Republicans to alter the budget in their favor or else. They don't concede anything. And the debt only matters when they say it matters.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 8:05 am to 615tider
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It's always the same. They hold the country hostage and force Republicans to alter the budget in their favor or else. They don't concede anything. And the debt only matters when they say it matters.
Most of the republicans if not all the congressional ones are in on it too playing their role. They’ll bake in billions in extra spending and get their kick backs and the beat will go on
Posted on 9/30/25 at 8:09 am to Bard
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Dems are holding up the process by demanding an extra $1.5T in healthcare spending while we're already $37T in debt.
How about the federal government take a step back and not tread into areas where there is no constitutional authority for federal involvement? A budget based upon spending only in areas where the federal government has a constitutional mandate to provide such things as defense, roads, and clearly delineated items would not prove as daunting and burdensome to assemble as our current bureaucracy-run-amok has made it.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 8:10 am to Swamp Angel
This makes too much sense. The DC establishment will never let that happen.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 8:10 am to Bard
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or they just don't care because their politics are more important than the fiscal stability of the country
This. It’s always this. For most politicians it’s this.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 8:23 am to Swamp Angel
I agree, but won't happen under current conditions. I've often wondered how we could obtain a "reaffirmation" of the Constitution as Law of the Land. Be that a ruling from a court, Executive Order, whatever it takes to realign our Government to do the job its supposed to be doing and not more. We shouldn't need those things, but "Legal" frameworks have polluted what our founding fathers envisioned. There should be no Grey area when it comes to laws, bills, etc that are unconstitutional. If you have to ask a court, then its unconstitutional.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 8:24 am to TFH
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They’ll shut it down and blame republicans. As per usual
No one's listening to them anymore.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 8:25 am to mooseofterror
quote:I'm pretty sure the answer would be violence and then an inevitable return to "expansion of scope" via human nature.
I've often wondered how we could obtain a "reaffirmation" of the Constitution as Law of the Land. Be that a ruling from a court, Executive Order, whatever it takes to realign our Government to do the job its supposed to be doing and not more.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 8:28 am to Swamp Angel
I do believe this shutdown will provide Americans, especially the 18 - 40 crowd, an opportunity to witness a government shutdown to realize we have to much government.
It will be GLORIOUS!!

It will be GLORIOUS!!
Posted on 9/30/25 at 8:28 am to Bard
The democrats want all of their pet projects usaid gave them back. They want to return to funding illegals Healthcare.
They want all of the funding of ridiculous studies of drunk Chinese hookers back.
Dont interrupt the enemy. Trump can get a lot done with it shut down but don't tell them...
They want all of the funding of ridiculous studies of drunk Chinese hookers back.
Dont interrupt the enemy. Trump can get a lot done with it shut down but don't tell them...
Posted on 9/30/25 at 8:28 am to Bard
I do not like the government
Shut it down , let's see the millions of dead in the streets........
This is theater, stop watching and they will figure it out.
Shut it down , let's see the millions of dead in the streets........
This is theater, stop watching and they will figure it out.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 8:29 am to TFH
frick em. Only the braindead believe them.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 8:33 am to Bard
Dems don't have a hand to play other than, "this is what resistance looks like".
They are threatening Republicans with a good time.
1) Redundant government workers will lose their jobs
2) Rep messaging is easy. No money for illegals and health insurance costs are high from a program Dems created and slapped Obama's name on.
3) Nobody outside DC cares that gov workers are SOL
4) Ice continues their work
5) It's not a controversial CR.
6) They have no power in any branch
7) Media will run out of water to carry for Dems by day 2, then what are they going to do? Threaten an extended good time?
They are threatening Republicans with a good time.
1) Redundant government workers will lose their jobs
2) Rep messaging is easy. No money for illegals and health insurance costs are high from a program Dems created and slapped Obama's name on.
3) Nobody outside DC cares that gov workers are SOL
4) Ice continues their work
5) It's not a controversial CR.
6) They have no power in any branch
7) Media will run out of water to carry for Dems by day 2, then what are they going to do? Threaten an extended good time?
Posted on 9/30/25 at 8:55 am to Swamp Angel
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How about the federal government take a step back and not tread into areas where there is no constitutional authority for federal involvement? A budget based upon spending only in areas where the federal government has a constitutional mandate to provide such things as defense, roads, and clearly delineated items would not prove as daunting and burdensome to assemble as our current bureaucracy-run-amok has made it.
It's far easier to run on giving money to the elderly, the sick and the poor. Running on cutting (or having cut) spending for social safety net programs (Medicare/caid, SNAP, Section 8, Social Security, etc) is a loser for (re)election campaigns and no one runs with the idea of losing by because of being honest.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 8:56 am to TFH
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They’ll shut it down and blame republicans.
TRUMP everything is TRUMP FAULT
The TDS never ends
Posted on 9/30/25 at 8:58 am to mooseofterror
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I've often wondered how we could obtain a "reaffirmation" of the Constitution as Law of the Land.
Wouldn't it be glorious (and quite telling) to put such a reaffirmation before both houses of congress for a vote and see what the results are?
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