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Posted on 9/30/25 at 5:17 am
Posted by ShockG082
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774 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 5:17 am
He makes a point when Ole Miss is dropping 8 into coverage because they do not fear our ability to run the ball, then why not throw MVB in & clear the rcvrs out and let him scramble for a 30 yd gain?
Posted by zac32lsu
Lafayette
Member since Oct 2009
663 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 5:20 am to
I was all for giving MVB a chance and certainly still am, but i doubt OM would have given that same look to him.
This post was edited on 9/30/25 at 5:21 am
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
71527 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 5:28 am to
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I was all for giving MVB a chance and certainly still am, but i doubt OM would have given that same look to him.


That's also the point though. If they have to commit more than 3 to rushing against LSU then it opens things up for the rest of LSU's offense.

They never had to worry about Nuss running. There was no threat of it. They didn't have to consider anything else on defense. A mobile QB would have them guessing.

Ole Miss' QB had some awful throws too and they dropped balls, but eventually they broke through because our defense had to account for his ability to run.
This post was edited on 9/30/25 at 5:29 am
Posted by ShockG082
Member since Sep 2021
774 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 5:29 am to
Totally agree, but it was one opportunity for our coaching staff to make OM change their defensive look. Kelly could've called Kiffins bluff and sent the message that he could reach deeper in his bag of tricks if Kiffin still wanted to rush 3 and drop 8.
This post was edited on 9/30/25 at 5:31 am
Posted by ShockG082
Member since Sep 2021
774 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 5:30 am to
Yes.
Posted by tigerbait01
Sec. 423 Row 18
Member since Jul 2007
4058 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 6:24 am to
I love they are finally calling out Kelly’s dumbass offensive staff. This is solely on Brian Kelly. He washed up, just wants to tell you how good he is
Posted by Redmann
Member since Oct 2021
271 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 6:39 am to
If your online can't block, you have got to use a mobile QB. I think mvb should playing a lot.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
16535 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 6:47 am to
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why not throw MVB in & clear the rcvrs out and let him scramble for a 30 yd gain?

MVB’s longest run of his career is 17 yards. The second longest is 12 yards. The rest have all been under 10 yards.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
33198 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 6:53 am to
Or here is an idea.... run the ball with your running backs. Sloan refused to do that.
Posted by BoogaBear
Member since Jul 2013
6931 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 6:55 am to
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They never had to worry about Nuss running


People keep saying this shite, sure they don't have to worry about Nuss running.

They also don't have to worry about:
Running backs running
Nuss throwing deep
Nuss throwing over the middle
Nuss throwing accurately on outside routes
Nuss making good decisions
The OL stopping a 3 man rush
WR's getting open
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
52129 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 6:57 am to
It’s called being out coached.
Posted by Sharlo
Van down by the river.
Member since Oct 2021
1112 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 7:04 am to
Just 2 actual RB runs in the first half of I remember correctly. That is insane by any metric. (Doesn’t include the WR sweeps.)

Once they were clearly selling out to the pass, we should have run 2-3 times in consecutive series at least. At least then play action becomes plausible.

Only 2 options: OC isn’t keeping up with the pitch count, or he has zero confidence in running the ball. Not sure which is worse.
This post was edited on 9/30/25 at 7:05 am
Posted by ShockG082
Member since Sep 2021
774 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 7:05 am to
The fate of this offense was decided in April. And it should've been a concern of the staff then, Kelly should've recognized this weakness and vulnerability. Contingencies should've been put into place and Kelly should've been prepared to do something with Sloan then. But Kelly's famous wait and see philosophy is biting us all in the arse.
Posted by SaveFarris
Member since Apr 2012
2468 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 7:15 am to
quote:


He makes a point when Ole Miss is dropping 8 into coverage because they do not fear our ability to run the ball, then why not throw MVB in & clear the rcvrs out and let him scramble for a 30 yd gain?


A. You think Ole Miss doesn't change the coverage when they see VanBuren in the lineup?

B. The reason MVB is QB2 is because he's not as good as Nuss. If MVB were better, he'd be QB1.

C. If they're only rushing 3, then you stay in the pocket and wait for someone to get open. If you still don't have the time, then you yell at your OL for failing at their jobs.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
41791 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 7:22 am to
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MVB’s longest run of his career is 17 yards. The second longest is 12 yards. The rest have all been under 10 yards.



People think he is gonna be Jayden Daniels lite. His career rushing stats are 73 carries for 4 yards with 12 TDs and 27 sacks. Last season, his rushing totals were 69 carries for -12 yards with 11 TDs and 27 sacks.

His 3 games with a double-digit rush.

17-yard run vs Umass. For the game, 9 carries for 14 yards, 2 TDs rushing, sacked 3 times

12-yard run vs Texas 12 carries for -14 yards, 1 TD rushing, sacked 6 times

12-yard run vs SELA 4 carries for 16 yards, 1 TD rushing, not sacked
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
9151 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 7:24 am to
quote:

I was all for giving MVB a chance and certainly still am, but i doubt OM would have given that same look to him.


True but it would have forced them to do something different

What they were doing with Nuss in the game was clearly working for them. Forcing them out of that couldn’t have made things worse.
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
9151 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 7:28 am to
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B. The reason MVB is QB2 is because he's not as good as Nuss. If MVB were better, he'd be QB1


He’s probably not as good as a healthy Nuss

But there is CLEARLY something physically wrong with him. He can’t even make some basic throws right now.

It’s hard to imaging MVB being worse than that RIGHT NOW.

BK should have at least put him in and found out one way or another
Posted by dinosaur
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
1151 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 7:29 am to
I agree that he is not a "running" quarterback but he at least is a threat to run and can run if the defense gives him room. I assume that the injury is a main reason Nuss does not seem to even consider running. But if the injury is that bad, why not try someone else?
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12552 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 7:52 am to
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People think he is gonna be Jayden Daniels lite. His career rushing stats are 73 carries for 4 yards with 12 TDs and 27 sacks. Last season, his rushing totals were 69 carries for -12 yards with 11 TDs and 27 sacks.

It’s funny how Nussmeier has skewed folks’ view of what a “mobile” QB looks like. But I think it speaks to Nussmeier as much as anyone else.. it’s not that we need a dual threat, it’s that Nussmeier is so unwilling to run that anyone with any history of scramble attempts looks like a true dual threat in comparison.

To put it in perspective - leading up to the Florida game, everyone talked about how DJ Lagway is definitely not a scrambler; he’s a pocket passer. But DJ Lagway had more rushing yards against LSU than Nussmeier has the entire 2025 season. Excluding sacks, Nussmeier has 8 rushing attempts through 5 games. And 4 of those were QB sneaks.

It’s kind of hard to parse the data because of how sacks get applied, but I would bet there aren’t more than a few P4 quarterbacks who run less than Nussmeier. When that’s the baseline, anyone looks like a dual threat.
This post was edited on 9/30/25 at 7:54 am
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
41791 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 7:53 am to
quote:

I agree that he is not a "running" quarterback but he at least is a threat to run and can run if the defense gives him room.


This is true. I included the sacks because his overall numbers are significantly impacted by the sacks. And he's had a lot of them. 27 in 268 pass attempts. For comparison, Nuss has been sacked 29 times in 915 pass attempts.
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