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Let’s play “Where did Nuss throw this ball”

Posted on 9/29/25 at 12:19 am
Posted by NorthTxLSU
Dallas to Austin to Houston
Member since Nov 2018
13736 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 12:19 am
LSU is driving down the field with a chance to take a 14-3 lead on the road. It is 1st and 10. Where does Nuss throw this ball?



A) Wide open Sharp running across the middle

B) Wide open Nic Anderson (I think) on the right

C) Zavion who is covered by 3 defenders



It should 1000% be Michael Van Buren time in Baton Rouge. This shite is unacceptable from a 5th year senior.
This post was edited on 9/29/25 at 12:35 am
Posted by classicgold
bfe
Member since Feb 2017
6488 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 12:36 am to
Can someone please explain to me why we always have 2 receivers running the same fricking route within 3yds of each other? What are we trying to do with our route trees?

Kelly clearly plays CEO and lets his coordinators coach.Problem is he is absolute dog shite at hiring coordinators. Joe Sloan is fricking killing us.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6687 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 1:52 am to
This is the part where people come in and say that the coaches know better than us, and if the backup were the answer, they'd have already made the move.

Well I could point to many, many examples, but I'll use one that should drive the point home firmly: Some might remember that mister genius, Nick Saban, had Josh Booty starting all year in his first year on the job, with decent results, but when LSU was getting their butts kicked at halftime by Georgia Tech in the Peach Bowl, he put in Rohan Davey, who absolutely torched them, and went on the following season to have what was probably, at the time, the best season for a QB in LSU history.

The point being, coaches sometimes put too much stock in what they see in practice, and don't put the best option on the field, as a result. Some guys are just gamers and not practice players, for whatever reason. The Ole Miss QB was said to be very unimpressive in practice, which is why he didn't get on the field until an injury. And how is that going for them?

Van Buren could come in and be terrible. But how much worse could it get from what we're seeing right now? You won't know until you give him a chance.

And the kid had 8 starts last year. It's not like he doesn't know anything about playing at this level. Even if all he does is throw short passes, his ability to run would be a net positive, similar to how Jordan Jefferson provided a spark for us in 2011 (except when facing Alabama the second time). We're not asking for perfection, we're asking for an improvement of any kind.
This post was edited on 9/29/25 at 1:57 am
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31913 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 2:08 am to
There are a few things that bother me, aside from the results.


1. Kelly says, almost emphatically, that Garrett is fine. He isn't. He didn't look fine in that game. More importantly, Garrett's evasiveness to answer any questions about a rumored injury is even weirder.

Something doesn't add up.


I am not calling for Kelly to be fired but he also needs to understand that the fans aren't idiots and won't accept what he says, at least in regard to how Garrett is playing.

There's coach speak and then there's something else.

I still support him but he has to take a step back and look at what's going on in his program.


I'm not calling for a change at QB but if Garrett is hurt, he shouldn't play. Or at least play much.


If there's a silver lining, at least LSU has a bye week this week and can get rested, and I'm talking about everyone. Players, coaches, fans.....
This post was edited on 9/29/25 at 2:10 am
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38140 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 2:10 am to
Nuss managed to kill all the manufactured hype within four weeks. Impressive.
Posted by tigersaint24
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2014
1937 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 3:02 am to
Sloan
Posted by SofaKingTrill
Member since Mar 2008
8036 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 4:42 am to
quote:

There are a few things that bother me, aside from the results.


1. Kelly says, almost emphatically, that Garrett is fine. He isn't. He didn't look fine in that game. More importantly, Garrett's evasiveness to answer any questions about a rumored injury is even weirder.

Something doesn't add up.


I am not calling for Kelly to be fired but he also needs to understand that the fans aren't idiots and won't accept what he says, at least in regard to how Garrett is playing.

There's coach speak and then there's something else.

I still support him but he has to take a step back and look at what's going on in his program.


I'm not calling for a change at QB but if Garrett is hurt, he shouldn't play. Or at least play much.


If there's a silver lining, at least LSU has a bye week this week and can get rested, and I'm talking about everyone. Players, coaches, fans.....


The reason Garrett isnt answering it is because he's not hurt. What doesn't add up is Garrett isnt living up to hype created by people remembering his 4k yard season last year in a different light than it actually was. He was poor last year too. The hype this year surrounding him was in hope that he'd take the next step like Joe Burrow did from 2018 to 2019 as a 5th year senior. The problem is, even in 2018, Burrow was levels above Nuss at reading defenses, making decisions, throwing the ball, and running the ball.

This year he's making the same mistakes he made in big games last year. You can find horrible decisions peppered throughout the season last season. 3 turnovers against Bama, 3 turnovers against A&M, a pick in the first game against USC, a pick on an underthrown deep ball against Ole Miss in the 4th quarter, the pick late in the game against South Carolina that was luckily nullified by a stupid penalty that happened behind the player returning it for a pick 6. That pick would've lost the South Carolina game if not for the penalty. This idea that he was something different in 2024 isn't true.

He, along with a pretty bad defense, lead the team to 4 losses and a Texas Bowl trip. This year the defense is much improved but he's still going to lead you to 3 or 4 losses and a Texas Bowl with terrible decision making and poor throws.
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4875 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 4:52 am to
quote:

Let’s play “Where did Nuss throw this ball”


What is being lost in this pic is three rushers and one is free.

The fact you can’t run against three or protect against three is a bigger problem than finding 1 out of 4 wr’s in less than three seconds.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
30367 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 5:25 am to
quote:

The reason Garrett isnt answering it is because he's not hurt.
He could easily say “I’m not hurt”, “There’s nothing wrong”, or something similar, but that isn’t how he answered the question.

It’s also obvious when watching him that something is going on no matter how he answers the question.

ETA: Whatever injury he’s dealing with didn’t cause him to make the bad decision on this play, but it is absolutely limiting his ability to drive the ball.
This post was edited on 9/29/25 at 5:31 am
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
41727 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 5:46 am to
The bigger question is which one of the FOUR linemen on the right forgot to block the defensive line bearing down on Nuss.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
25824 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 5:47 am to
MVB won't be any better when 3 guys are getting pressure. Check out that shitty OL play
Posted by UncleLogger
Freetown
Member since Jan 2008
3077 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 5:59 am to
quote:

More importantly, Garrett's evasiveness to answer any questions about a rumored injury is even weirder. Something doesn't add up.


What sort of injury causes someone to make bad decisions and throw shite passes over the span of multiple seasons?
Posted by Tangineck
Mandeville
Member since Nov 2017
2699 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 6:04 am to
quote:

coaches sometimes put too much stock in what they see in practice, and don't put the best option on the field, as a result


This is true at every level in every sport. Some kids just can't make themselves play at the same level in practice as they can under game pressure.
Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
20303 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 6:04 am to
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What is being lost in this pic is three rushers and one is free.

My first thought was 'WTF are the OL doing in that pic?" You probably lose some context in a static shot, but that just looks odd.
Posted by turnpiketiger
Member since May 2020
11969 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 6:07 am to
Nussmier will 100% get booed at Tiger stadium if they have anything less than a TD drive to open vs SC.

Bet your arse that! Kelly better take this bye week serious and prepare for the possibility of MVB taking over. I don’t care how they have to play the narrative. If you don’t want to straight up bench Nuss, then tell the truth. He’s hurt and is sitting out.
This post was edited on 9/29/25 at 6:08 am
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
34442 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 6:13 am to
quote:

MVB won't be any better when 3 guys are getting pressure. Check out that shitty OL play


Maybe, but he'll gash them for three or four yards every time and maybe 15 or 20 once a drive. It'll force them to spend an extra person babysitting him that will free up a receiver or rb.
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
20394 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 6:16 am to
Davion would have caught anTD if the ball was thrown to the back of the end zone
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
17594 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 6:23 am to
I said at the time it happened, that I can't emphasize enough how big of a play that was and you summed up why.

The other HUGE play was the pic 6 PI called on Pickett, I think that was a BS call and that's a 14 point swing, but that one is out of our control it's a refs judgement call. The one you illustrate is not. Bad decision, bad throw - momentum changing.

Our offense still is our biggest issue but these two plays were game changers...momentum changers - in a big way.
This post was edited on 9/29/25 at 6:27 am
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
17594 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 6:30 am to
quote:

Kelly says, almost emphatically, that Garrett is fine. He isn't. He didn't look fine in that game.


I'll agree - but on the play illustrated - that's nothing to do with physical ableness, he made a terrible decision that was VERY costly that a QB of his experience should never make. And quite frankly it was an easy decision. Both can be true.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
41876 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 6:31 am to
quote:

What is being lost in this pic is three rushers and one is free.



I get that, but that still means he made a poor decision. There is a guy directly in front of him, wide open, and it is a much easier throw. If he wants to be a high draft pick, he will need to show better decision making under pressure.
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