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How Hard is it for Skenes to get a win?

Posted on 9/24/25 at 9:10 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
77952 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 9:10 pm
He’s pitched 32 games

in his 10 wins his ERA is 0.29

in the other 22 games he has an ERA of 2.82 and he’s 0-10.

edit: this is embarrassing: his ERA in his 10 wins is actually 0.29
This post was edited on 9/24/25 at 9:27 pm
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
15391 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 9:23 pm to
He plays for a bad team, they have 89 losses
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
77952 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 9:28 pm to
yeah but generally bad teams don’t do it on the back of a 1.97 ERA pitcher.

Posted by The1TrueTiger
Colorado Springs, Colorado
Member since Apr 2009
2438 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 10:33 pm to
Wins aren't a good measuring stick to judge a pitcher; you can pitch lights out of 8 innings and your bull pin can lose the game in the ninth. Anyone with eyes can see Skenes is one of if not the best pitcher in baseball, he's just not going to get a lot of wins on a team this bad.
This post was edited on 9/24/25 at 10:34 pm
Posted by SEC Doctor
Member since Aug 2024
9571 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 10:44 pm to
quote:

in his 10 wins his ERA is 0.29


That is an unbelievable stat.
Posted by LCTFAN
New Iberia
Member since Mar 2013
2885 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 6:34 am to
quote:

SammyTiger
quote:

edit: this is embarrassing: his ERA in his 10 wins is actually 0.29




Similar scenario " per AI
LSU football: Projecting the Tigers' offensive depth chart ...The LSU football offense in 2023 was historically potent, averaging 45.5 points and 543.5 total yards per game
LSU led the nation in offense and did not make the playoffs


To win you gotta play both sides of the game
Posted by Shiftyplus1
Regret nothing that made you smile
Member since Oct 2005
14197 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 6:44 am to
quote:

Wins aren't a good measuring stick to judge a pitcher


I agree, but that isn't what the op was saying. It's really a post about just how shitty the Pirates team is.
Posted by jpainter6174
Boss city
Member since Feb 2014
6219 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 7:03 am to
quote:

in the other 22 games he has an ERA of 2.82 and he’s 0-10.


Sounds like he needs to pitch better!

Joking of course...
Posted by HC87
Coastal NC
Member since Dec 2014
5435 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 8:07 am to
He is definitely deserving of the NL CY Award. One can only hope the Pirates improve, but sadly I don’t think he’ll get quality run support until he moves on to a better team via trade or FA. Wishing him all the best as he continues to dominate at his position!
Posted by BlackPot
Member since Oct 2016
2503 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 8:09 am to
I've come across this stat a few times on facebook. Not this particular one, but similar ones. If the Pirates could play some offense, Pirates / Skenes would be in a way better position

quote:

The average runs a game in baseball is 4.227 but we will round down to 4

Now if Skenes has 4 runs in run support in every game, he pitched (over 5IP) he would the most winning pitcher in baseball with :14 wins :3 losses :1 tie
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69342 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 9:16 am to
I saw a much more impressive stat that if he had 4 runs per start his record would be 35-3 or something ridiculous
Posted by OhioLSUfan
Columbus, OH
Member since Oct 2007
1843 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 12:47 pm to
DeGrom part 2
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
77952 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 1:33 pm to
A couple more

paul is second in the MLB in Wins Lost (left with lead bullpen blew it) with 7.

He has 0 Losses saved (left down a run and team came back to score enough to get him to a least a ND)

He has 0 ”Cheap win” that’s wins with 6+ innings giving up 3 ER.

This post was edited on 9/25/25 at 1:35 pm
Posted by elesu1
greenwell springs
Member since Dec 2004
193 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 1:35 pm to
demand an immediate trade!!!
Posted by Filmat11
Anytown USA
Member since Sep 2011
620 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 3:09 pm to
It's tougher now than ever for a starting pitcher to get wins on a bad team.

By comparison, Steve Carlton in 1972 went 27-10 on a Phillies team that went 59-97. He threw 30 complete games and had a 1.97 ERA.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
45677 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 4:06 pm to
And Skenes didn't throw nearly the innings Carlton did.
Sandy Koufax managed to get wins with a pathetic offense behind him.
This post was edited on 9/25/25 at 4:48 pm
Posted by Mile_High_Tiger
Denver
Member since Sep 2014
2 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 4:24 pm to
Nolan Ryan in 1987 lead the league in ERA and strikeouts (1.69 ERA, 270 K) and had a 4-16 win-loss record
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
45677 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 4:48 pm to
Wasn't Ryan 8-16?
And there wasn't any Cy Young talk, either.
Posted by SlickRick55
Member since May 2016
2636 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 5:45 pm to
Shows you how dumb that stat is!
Posted by BornAndRaised_LA
Springfield, VA
Member since Oct 2018
6501 posts
Posted on 9/25/25 at 5:47 pm to
quote:

in the other 22 games he has an ERA of 2.82 and he’s 0-10.


Fried (NYY) is 19-5 with a 2.86 ERA
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