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OT Gamblers: How can both money lines be negative?
Posted on 9/22/25 at 8:44 pm
Posted on 9/22/25 at 8:44 pm
Right now LSU is minus 102 while Ole Miss is minus 118.
How can that be? I thought one had to be the inverse of the other in some way.
Is there any way to arbitrage it?
(This is on FanDuel.)
How can that be? I thought one had to be the inverse of the other in some way.
Is there any way to arbitrage it?
(This is on FanDuel.)
This post was edited on 9/22/25 at 8:45 pm
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Posted on 9/22/25 at 8:45 pm to RanchoLaPuerto
The numbers can be whatever makes Vegas the most money.
Posted on 9/22/25 at 8:46 pm to CocomoLSU
So why would I take a negative money line on the underdog?
Posted on 9/22/25 at 8:46 pm to RanchoLaPuerto
Da fuq? LSU moneyline is +100 on bet mgm baw. I just loaded up on it
Posted on 9/22/25 at 8:46 pm to RanchoLaPuerto
It means its a pick 'em game and the house isn't willing to lose money on it, so both lines are negative.
Posted on 9/22/25 at 8:48 pm to Tangineck
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its a pick 'em game
Ok. I guess that makes sense. But wouldn’t the spread be pick em?
Posted on 9/22/25 at 8:52 pm to RanchoLaPuerto
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But wouldn’t the spread be pick em?
The spread is +1.5 that is a pick em spread
Posted on 9/22/25 at 8:52 pm to LoneStar23
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The spread is +1.5 that is a pick em spread
No it’s not
Posted on 9/22/25 at 8:53 pm to RanchoLaPuerto
The book takes $10 as a fee for betting. A regular game that isn’t pickem will be something like +100 vs -120 or -140 vs +120.
My book actually only takes $5 so a true pick em will be -105 vs -105
My book actually only takes $5 so a true pick em will be -105 vs -105
Posted on 9/22/25 at 8:54 pm to justaniceguy
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A regular game that isn’t pickem will be something like +100 vs -120 or -140 vs +120.
This is not how implied odds on a money line work
Posted on 9/22/25 at 8:56 pm to RanchoLaPuerto
The house edge, aka the juice, aka the vig.
The real way that books make their money.
The real way that books make their money.
Posted on 9/22/25 at 8:56 pm to RanchoLaPuerto
The horse was the mother and rode into town of Friday
Posted on 9/22/25 at 8:57 pm to RanchoLaPuerto
The book takes a vig, lines will never be the exact inverse
Posted on 9/22/25 at 8:58 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
My book has right now:
-110 vs 100
-123 vs +113
I’m sorry I didn’t get the exact numbers right
-110 vs 100
-123 vs +113
I’m sorry I didn’t get the exact numbers right
Posted on 9/22/25 at 8:59 pm to RanchoLaPuerto
Becuase Vegas knows degenerates will bet on it anyway. It’s a win/win for them. No one is forcing them to set the money line at + on either side. If the juice is negative both ways they are going to profit regardless who wins, just like on spread betting with the juice on both sides being negative. Vegas wins either way
Posted on 9/22/25 at 8:59 pm to rintintin
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The book takes a vig, lines will never be the exact inverse
So does this imply that the Vegas oddsmakers think this is about even?
Posted on 9/22/25 at 9:00 pm to RanchoLaPuerto
Ole Miss is what? A 2 point favorite? It seems like the perception is that its going to be a pretty even game, Ole Miss has the advantage because its at Ole Miss. Why would they set a +ML? It happens in games that bettors decide will be close..
I say bettors because that's who really controls the line. The book makers just try to get a number that will draw bets from both sides. If too much money goes to one side the line adjust to start getting people to bet the other side.
ESPN's gamecast has Ole Miss with a 73% change to win, lets say they used that to set their MLs. LSU would likely be +250 (I just threw a number out). People would be betting the shite out of LSU because its a pretty even matchup and the casino would lose a lot of LSU wins. So to appeal to bettors without them losing a lot of money (hopefully coming out ahead) both teams are -.
I say bettors because that's who really controls the line. The book makers just try to get a number that will draw bets from both sides. If too much money goes to one side the line adjust to start getting people to bet the other side.
ESPN's gamecast has Ole Miss with a 73% change to win, lets say they used that to set their MLs. LSU would likely be +250 (I just threw a number out). People would be betting the shite out of LSU because its a pretty even matchup and the casino would lose a lot of LSU wins. So to appeal to bettors without them losing a lot of money (hopefully coming out ahead) both teams are -.
Posted on 9/22/25 at 9:00 pm to Who_Dat_Tiger
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just like on spread betting with the juice on both sides being negative. Vegas wins either way
Some of you are stunningly retarded
Posted on 9/22/25 at 9:00 pm to justaniceguy
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My book actually only takes $5
Link?
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