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Gen Z and Millennials are burnt out, not from working hard, but because they lack hope

Posted on 9/19/25 at 5:09 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/19/25 at 5:09 pm
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Fortune

Suzy Welch says Gen Z and millennials are burnt out because older generations worked just as hard, but they ‘had hope’

By Dave Smith
Fri, September 19, 2025


A generational divide over workplace burnout has less to do with work intensity and more to do with diminished expectations for career rewards, according to business author and New York University professor Suzy Welch. The 66-year-old from Portland earned her MBA as a Baker Scholar from Harvard Business School and spent seven years as a management consultant at Bain & Co. before joining Harvard Business Review in 2001, serving as editor-in-chief. Speaking on the July 24 episode of the Masters of Scale podcast, Welch argued younger workers face the same demanding schedules as previous generations, but lack the fundamental belief that hard work will lead to meaningful advancement.

Welch said this insight emerged from a conversation she had with a 25-year-old freelance worker who asked Welch to create more content about worker fatigue among young people because her friends were “just so burnt out.” When Welch told this worker she used to work “seven days a week” at that age and loved the work—and would’ve done more of it if she could—the young woman offered a striking rebuttal: “But you had hope.”

“And I did have hope. We all did have hope,” Welch told Masters of Scale host Jeff Berman. “We believed that if if you worked hard you were rewarded for it. And so this is the disconnect.”
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Millennials are in a particularly bad spot, broadly speaking. About 66% of millennials report moderate or high levels of burnout, according to a recent report from Aflac.

“One possible explanation for the higher levels of burnout among millennials could be their unique career pressures and expectations,” the report said, which includes “more demanding work environments than other generations, defined by constant connectivity, high performance expectations and a competitive job market.” Millennial workers are also part of the “sandwich generation,” taking care of both children and their aging parents. According to a Principal Financial report, more than 60% of workers who juggle both responsibilities worry about burnout.

The context for this burnout crisis that young people are being forced to navigate multiple world-altering crises all at once: climate change, political instability, ongoing effects of the COVID-19 pandemic, economic uncertainty, and international conflicts like the Russia-Ukraine war. The psychological impact is profound and measurable: Research shows pandemic-related and climate-related distress are linked to more depression and anxiety symptoms and reduced health-related quality of life, while war-related distress was associated with greater anxiety. Notably, according to Harvard researchers, nearly half (45%) of young adults between 18 to 25 think their mental health is harmed by an overall “sense that things are falling apart.”
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“Gen Z thinks, ‘Yeah, I watched what happened to my parents’ career and I watched what happened to my older sister’s career and they worked very hard and they still got laid off,'” Welch said on the podcast.

Student debt represents a significant burden, with Gen Z paying an average of $526 monthly toward loans—nearly double the overall average of $284, according to Empower. Housing costs compound these pressures, having increased 121% from 1960 to 2017 while median household income rose only 29%. Currently, 87% of Gen Z and 62% of millennials cannot afford to purchase homes.
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The generational divide has significant economic implications, with workplace burnout costing businesses $322 billion annually in lost productivity, according to Gallup, and generating healthcare costs between $125 billion and $190 billion. As Gen Z’s role in the global workforce continues to grow and evolve, Welch’s insight about hope provides a framework for understanding why traditional approaches to workplace stress may prove insufficient for younger U.S. workers.

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Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 9/19/25 at 5:12 pm to
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The context for this burnout crisis that young people are being forced to navigate multiple world-altering crises all at once: climate change, political instability, ongoing effects of the COVID-19 pandemic, economic uncertainty, and international conflicts like the Russia-Ukraine war. The psychological impact is profound and measurable:


climate change?

international conflicts?

Pussies if that's their excuse.
Posted by Audioman213
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/19/25 at 5:13 pm to
Gonna get downvoted to hell but all those previous generations that talk about putting your head down, working hard at Company Z, and moving up in life gave outdated advice.

You are alone and allegiance more often than not gets you nowhere.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 9/19/25 at 5:14 pm to
Lol.and they see all of these social media influencers lived completely charmed lives doing absolutely nothing.
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 9/19/25 at 5:15 pm to
The future is bleak when accounting for housing costs, liberals and AI
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/19/25 at 5:20 pm to
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Pussies if that's their excuse.
Except that is their reality. They've been immersed and drowned in it. Gen Y & Z are so much better off than their sibling gens overseas. There simply is no comparison. NONE!

But their generational perception is totally different. It's been said that sans the horrors of major war, societies become complacent. Regardless, the mantra of the 50's was "Rebel Without A Cause." In the 21st century, it's "Hopelessness Without A Cause."
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/19/25 at 5:22 pm to
I was thinking of making a thread about something similar (on the OT of course, not crazy land here).

People born around....1987 have seen some shite.

From Y2k in their tween/adolescence to 9/11 the following year when they should be in high school, then the WOT, then the financial crisis right around when they graduated from college. Then right after 30 Covid happens

Oh and they were in high school at the apex of the opiate surge as a social drug. I can't imagine many have gone through life without losing a friend to ODing or drug-related deaths.

*ETA: don't forget the PTSD of friends who fought in the WOT
This post was edited on 9/19/25 at 5:23 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/19/25 at 5:23 pm to
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The future is bleak
GOOD LORD!
Posted by dalefla
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Member since Jul 2024
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Posted on 9/19/25 at 5:23 pm to
I would lack hope, too, if I voted for morons like Biden and Harris. They have nothing to offer non-black, non pedophile, non-tranny, heterosexual people. Totally special interest group focused.
This post was edited on 9/19/25 at 5:24 pm
Posted by St Augustine
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Posted on 9/19/25 at 5:23 pm to
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The context for this burnout crisis that young people are being forced to navigate multiple world-altering crises all at once: climate change, political instability, ongoing effects of the COVID-19 pandemic, economic uncertainty, and international conflicts like the Russia-Ukraine war. The psychological impact is profound and measurable:


Crazy thing is they could’ve written a more intellectually honest article simply discussing how so many thirty something’s who went to school because college was this thing relentlessly pushed , took out loans to pay for it, even got jobs making historically solid middle class money are simply getting squeezed.
This post was edited on 9/19/25 at 5:27 pm
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 9/19/25 at 5:25 pm to
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Crazy thing is they could’ve written a more intellectually honest article simply discussing how so many thirty something’s who went to school because college was this thing relentlessly pushed , took out loans to pay for it, even jobs making historically solid middle class money are simply getting squeezed.


Winner, winner, chicken dinner!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/19/25 at 5:27 pm to
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GOOD LORD!


A generation being hit by 2 "once in 100 year" economic crises and feeling the effects of an insane housing paradigm (both from decades of lagging wages and the post-2009 housing policy) are going to feel pretty hopeless. That's not even discussing the college tuition crisis (leading to the SL crisis).
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 9/19/25 at 5:30 pm to
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Gonna get downvoted to hell but all those previous generations that talk about putting your head down, working hard at Company Z, and moving up in life gave outdated advice.

You are alone and allegiance more often than not gets you nowhere.


Pretty sure GenX started this. I am GenX and never had loyalty to any employer. My parents were like all those who came before. Worked all their life for the same employer and a pension.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 9/19/25 at 5:33 pm to
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Crazy thing is they could’ve written a more intellectually honest article simply discussing how so many thirty something’s who went to school because college was this thing relentlessly pushed , took out loans to pay for it, even got jobs making historically solid middle class money are simply getting squeezed.


They flooded many college degreed markets.

Blue collar seems to fare just as bad. Immigrants are filling those roles amd keeping wages down.

We also allowed investment groups to buy up housing while the rates were low, which drove up prices.

GenZ is fricked.
Posted by Gifman
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 9/19/25 at 5:34 pm to
Wow which generation raised these kids...they must suck as parents
Posted by loogaroo
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Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 9/19/25 at 5:35 pm to
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A generation being hit by 2 "once in 100 year" economic crises and feeling the effects of an insane housing paradigm (both from decades of lagging wages and the post-2009 housing policy) are going to feel pretty hopeless. That's not even discussing the college tuition crisis (leading to the SL crisis).


Who is responsible for that?
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
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Member since Jul 2024
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Posted on 9/19/25 at 5:36 pm to
So tired of all the BS excuses and other similar BS from people younger than boomers.

Very fatigued.


This post was edited on 9/19/25 at 5:38 pm
Posted by 89AUTiger
Member since May 2020
137 posts
Posted on 9/19/25 at 5:40 pm to
I came up in the generation of having Carter being the president, double digit inflation, oil embargo and 20% prime lending. Do you think I dreamed of owning a house and 2 cars? Every young person thinks they have it so bad. Like my dad told me, suck it up, buttercup. Be a man and everything will be okay. This is, STILL, the land of opportunity. Sorry if things won’t be handed to you on a silver platter. You’ll have to work to earn a living…just like every other man before you. This generation will be just fine if they remember they have balls and already won the lottery by being a citizen of the greatest country. That is not hyperbole.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/19/25 at 5:40 pm to
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People born around....1987 have seen some shite.

Have they seen the draft?
Have they seen 18% home loan rates?
Have they seen a life where girls had to make their own school dance dresses?
Where families shared a single car?
Where there was no internet?
Where phone range was limited to a 4ft cord?
Where natural stone kitchen and/or bath counters were things in the upper 0.1% of homes?
Where 1 TV and 3-channels was the middle class household norm?
Have they seen 90% income tax rates?

People born around....1987 have been told some shite. They've had it just good enough to neither question rote teaching, nor press for or pursue available exceptionalism. Now that they are stuck underachieving the American growth curve, they scream "woe is me!" though they are literally one of the most financially blessed groups on the planet.

This post was edited on 9/19/25 at 5:55 pm
Posted by Perrin Aybara
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 9/19/25 at 5:40 pm to
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Who is responsible for that?


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