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Does the Constitution still have value in 2025 as originally intended?
Posted on 9/17/25 at 9:52 am
Posted on 9/17/25 at 9:52 am
Point being, it was a document made for a specific type of people (white Christian and moral men to be precise). The piece of paper is more or less just a formality, the more important part is that it was written on the hearts of those who governed and consented to the government of the country at that time.
It was not meant for the electorate and demographics and the level of manipulation that is goes through today with courts and lawyers and politicians. Where you can have a judge say it’s not the Presidents right to fire someone on his staff or deport illegal gangbangers.
From my perspective, these days the Constitution doesn’t serve much use restraining the enemies of our civilization, as they will find crafty ways to abuse and manipulate it to whatever means they wish. All I see it doing anymore is restraining those who wish to protect the civilization.
It was not meant for the electorate and demographics and the level of manipulation that is goes through today with courts and lawyers and politicians. Where you can have a judge say it’s not the Presidents right to fire someone on his staff or deport illegal gangbangers.
From my perspective, these days the Constitution doesn’t serve much use restraining the enemies of our civilization, as they will find crafty ways to abuse and manipulate it to whatever means they wish. All I see it doing anymore is restraining those who wish to protect the civilization.
Posted on 9/17/25 at 10:36 am to burger bearcat
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it was a document made for a specific type of people
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All I see it doing anymore is restraining those who wish to protect the civilization.
These are two of the more important reasons why the U.S. Constitution has as much value today as it did 238 years ago.
Posted on 9/17/25 at 10:40 am to burger bearcat
Nothing wrong with the constitution. If it is not being utilized or applied in a way that supports modern times then that’s our fault.
Posted on 9/17/25 at 10:45 am to Purple Spoon
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Nothing wrong with the constitution. If it is not being utilized or applied in a way that supports modern times then that’s our fault
Nothing wrong with the constitution, what is wrong is committing to abide by it at all costs when leftists do not. We are playing basketball with 1 arm tied behind our back
The constitution was created when the intention was that only land owning men would be voters. The founders would have structured it to be more public mob proof (one of Madison’s big fears) if they had known women, migrants from shithole cultures, and nihilistic atheists would be a defining portion of the voter base
Posted on 9/17/25 at 10:53 am to GeauxBurrow312
Quite simply the founding fathers relied upon congress to be the guiding compass and the major power - both the house and senate.
What they did not anticipate was the absolute greed of their fellow man who only exists for their self interest and wealth above all else including the permanent politician without any other source of income
Fix that problem and the rest fall in line
What they did not anticipate was the absolute greed of their fellow man who only exists for their self interest and wealth above all else including the permanent politician without any other source of income
Fix that problem and the rest fall in line
Posted on 9/17/25 at 11:27 am to dafif
The original intent wasn't to have elected members of congress sit in their seat for decades. They were supposed to do a term or two of service and then go back to their regular lives.
These fricks have made congress their one and only job for their adult lives and after their first term, they usually ignore their constituents and work for themselves until it's time to campaign.
These fricks have made congress their one and only job for their adult lives and after their first term, they usually ignore their constituents and work for themselves until it's time to campaign.
Posted on 9/17/25 at 11:29 am to burger bearcat
Our Constitution is just fine. The problem is that the federal government hasn't felt it should be limited by it since sometime around 1865 when the federal government became the national or central government.
Posted on 9/17/25 at 11:33 am to burger bearcat
Other than the Bible, I personally believe this document was the greatest written achievement in history.
Posted on 9/17/25 at 11:34 am to Swamp Angel
The steps towards “the imperial presidency” began with Abe Lincoln and his prize cases suit
Posted on 9/17/25 at 11:35 am to burger bearcat
It’s meant to govern a just citizenry
Posted on 9/17/25 at 11:36 am to burger bearcat
quote:Sadly no. Not because of the document itself, but because of what we've done to it.
Does the Constitution still have value in 2025 as originally intended?
The constitution still has enormous value, but we have all but ignored it.
Posted on 9/17/25 at 11:43 am to burger bearcat
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It was not meant for the electorate and demographics and the level of manipulation that is goes through today with courts and lawyers and politicians. Where you can have a judge say it’s not the Presidents right to fire someone on his staff or deport illegal gangbangers.
Oh lord. Here we go.
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these days the Constitution doesn’t serve much use restraining the enemies of our civilization, as they will find crafty ways to abuse and manipulate it to whatever means they wish. All I see it doing anymore is restraining those who wish to protect the civilization.
So what's your solution, exactly?
Posted on 9/17/25 at 11:44 am to GeauxBurrow312
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The founders would have structured it to be more public mob proof (one of Madison’s big fears) if they had known women, migrants from shithole cultures, and nihilistic atheists would be a defining portion of the voter base
You need to read the Federalist Papers, specifically 43 and 85
Posted on 9/17/25 at 12:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
Odd pick, considering Madison lays it out in fed 10 (mob rule)
The amendment process (what I presume you are getting at) is flawed beyond repair. Fed 85 is not a great defense of the constitution in todays world
The amendment process (what I presume you are getting at) is flawed beyond repair. Fed 85 is not a great defense of the constitution in todays world
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