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The Charlie was turning on Israel narrative...
Posted on 9/16/25 at 8:50 pm
Posted on 9/16/25 at 8:50 pm
youtube converstaion with Shapiro
everyone parroting the narrative that CK was turning on Israel, but this convo he had shortly before his death (right after the bombing in Qatar) with Ben Shapiro clearly shows otherwise, and he makes it explicitly clear he wants Israel and the west to prevail. Kirk doesn't even take issue with Netanyahu's MAGA comments, and states that anyone pro Hamas is absolutely not MAGA and has some dark issues.
what is true, as stated by CK and backed up by his producer, is he received ridiculous blowback for platforming Tucker and Dave Smith at a TPUSA event. this is what's being misconstrued as CK "turning on Israel".
everyone parroting the narrative that CK was turning on Israel, but this convo he had shortly before his death (right after the bombing in Qatar) with Ben Shapiro clearly shows otherwise, and he makes it explicitly clear he wants Israel and the west to prevail. Kirk doesn't even take issue with Netanyahu's MAGA comments, and states that anyone pro Hamas is absolutely not MAGA and has some dark issues.
what is true, as stated by CK and backed up by his producer, is he received ridiculous blowback for platforming Tucker and Dave Smith at a TPUSA event. this is what's being misconstrued as CK "turning on Israel".
This post was edited on 9/16/25 at 9:05 pm
Posted on 9/16/25 at 8:52 pm to 632627
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as stated by CK and backed up by his producer, is he received ridiculous blowback for platforming Tucker and Dave Smith at a TPUSA event. this is what's being misconstrued as CK "turning on Israel".
Well Dave alleges that Charlie texted him after the Douglas Murray debate and that he agreed with almost every word he said and that he wanted him in a one on one podcast after that.
Posted on 9/16/25 at 8:53 pm to OMLandshark
He alleges that now.
All those idiots sound so dumb.
“Charlie secretly thought just like me!”
Stop.
All those idiots sound so dumb.
“Charlie secretly thought just like me!”
Stop.
Posted on 9/16/25 at 8:54 pm to the808bass
I’m just saying what he said, and Dave thinks Candace and Ian Carroll went too far with it.
Posted on 9/16/25 at 8:54 pm to 632627
Fuuuuuuuuckkkkk ooooooooffff
Edit: sorry didn’t read the OP. I’m getting really tired of hearing conspiracy theories that Israel was responsible for this. Idgaf about Israel but they aren’t the culprits of all the worlds evil.
Edit: sorry didn’t read the OP. I’m getting really tired of hearing conspiracy theories that Israel was responsible for this. Idgaf about Israel but they aren’t the culprits of all the worlds evil.
This post was edited on 9/16/25 at 9:05 pm
Posted on 9/16/25 at 8:54 pm to OMLandshark
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Well Dave alleges that Charlie texted him after the Douglas Murray debate and that he agreed with almost every word he said and that he wanted him in a one on one podcast after that.
there were two aspects of the Smith/Murray debate.
the first was the platforming of kooks passing themselves off as experts, which Murray accused Rogan of. Second, was the issue of Gaza.
if anything, Kirk agreed with Smith's side on the former.
Posted on 9/16/25 at 8:55 pm to 632627
Shapiro is a Jew who puts the Jews first as a podcast grifter.
Posted on 9/16/25 at 8:55 pm to OMLandshark
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I’m just saying what he said, and Dave thinks Candace and Ian Carroll went too far with it.
must suck for Dave realizing all his buddies are anti-Semites
Posted on 9/16/25 at 8:56 pm to JKeller34
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Shapiro is a Jew who puts the Jews first as a podcast grifter.
this conversation was on Kirk's channel, and Charlie was happy to let Ben "grift"
Posted on 9/16/25 at 8:57 pm to StrongOffer
And to the OP, I’m not taking the word of someone who has a very direct line to Benjamin Netanyahu on this.
Yes I think the conspiracy theorists saying that Ben had some pre-knowledge of this are ridiculous and Ben is obviously torn up about Charlie’s death. Ben obviously wouldn’t have gone along with it, because Charlie’s death probably increases the chances of him getting assassinated by a factor of three.
Not to mention their personal relationship, but Ben being in the know about this is completely ridiculous since I’m sure he’s now tripling his security costs.
Yes I think the conspiracy theorists saying that Ben had some pre-knowledge of this are ridiculous and Ben is obviously torn up about Charlie’s death. Ben obviously wouldn’t have gone along with it, because Charlie’s death probably increases the chances of him getting assassinated by a factor of three.
Not to mention their personal relationship, but Ben being in the know about this is completely ridiculous since I’m sure he’s now tripling his security costs.
This post was edited on 9/16/25 at 8:58 pm
Posted on 9/16/25 at 8:59 pm to 632627
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the first was the platforming of kooks passing themselves off as experts, which Murray accused Rogan of. Second, was the issue of Gaza.
And why is Murray, someone with merely an undergraduate in English, an expert? Just because he has a British accent?
Posted on 9/16/25 at 9:02 pm to 632627
He turned down 150 mil. Why would he turn that down? What were they trying to by? What do you think the conversation was after he canceled his Israel trip and turned them down? I guess Bibi just loves him some good ole Christianity and wanted to say “thanks!”
Posted on 9/16/25 at 9:02 pm to 632627
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Charlie was turning on Israel
Is a fricking narrative trying to turn this horrible situation into the next great internet conspiracy to give grifters clicks, likes, and follows.
Posted on 9/16/25 at 9:02 pm to OMLandshark
Are you taking up for the historian who claimed the Holocaust was all a big misunderstanding and that Churchill was the real war criminal?
Posted on 9/16/25 at 9:02 pm to OMLandshark
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And why is Murray, someone with merely an undergraduate in English, an expert? Just because he has a British accent?
ohhh I don't know, he's been to the area multiple times, studied it, published multiple books, and is experiencing first hand in his home country the chaos that Islam brings?
Posted on 9/16/25 at 9:04 pm to 632627
Stop fricking obsessing over Israel. God dammit it’s so annoying.
Posted on 9/16/25 at 9:05 pm to 632627
I have real issues with the extent to which Israel influences American politics and culture via AIPAC and other means.
That said, there is no evidence to suggest they were involved with CKs death regardless of his shared concerns over their undue influence and the way they attempted to drag America into a larger conflict with Iran.
That said, there is no evidence to suggest they were involved with CKs death regardless of his shared concerns over their undue influence and the way they attempted to drag America into a larger conflict with Iran.
This post was edited on 9/17/25 at 5:53 am
Posted on 9/16/25 at 9:06 pm to 632627
I thought Bill Ackman being the one to put up reward money for the details regarding information on the 22 year old was,.. odd.
He will essentially be giving the Robinson kids father 1.2 M.
Ackman is the same guy who had this "intervention" with CK 4 or 5 days before his death.
He will essentially be giving the Robinson kids father 1.2 M.
Ackman is the same guy who had this "intervention" with CK 4 or 5 days before his death.
Posted on 9/16/25 at 9:08 pm to 632627
Charlie demanded the truth no matter how uncomfortable. He questioned whether they had intelligence that it was going to happen and stood down for maximum effect. Charlie explained his position on Patrick Bet Davids show.
Posted on 9/16/25 at 9:09 pm to Lieutenant Dan
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I thought Bill Ackman being the one to put up reward money for the details regarding information on the 22 year old was,.. odd.
Ooooooooooooooh
You know what that means?????
Nothing.
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