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The Charlie was turning on Israel narrative...

Posted on 9/16/25 at 8:50 pm
Posted by 632627
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 9/16/25 at 8:50 pm
youtube converstaion with Shapiro

everyone parroting the narrative that CK was turning on Israel, but this convo he had shortly before his death (right after the bombing in Qatar) with Ben Shapiro clearly shows otherwise, and he makes it explicitly clear he wants Israel and the west to prevail. Kirk doesn't even take issue with Netanyahu's MAGA comments, and states that anyone pro Hamas is absolutely not MAGA and has some dark issues.

what is true, as stated by CK and backed up by his producer, is he received ridiculous blowback for platforming Tucker and Dave Smith at a TPUSA event. this is what's being misconstrued as CK "turning on Israel".
This post was edited on 9/16/25 at 9:05 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 9/16/25 at 8:52 pm to
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as stated by CK and backed up by his producer, is he received ridiculous blowback for platforming Tucker and Dave Smith at a TPUSA event. this is what's being misconstrued as CK "turning on Israel".


Well Dave alleges that Charlie texted him after the Douglas Murray debate and that he agreed with almost every word he said and that he wanted him in a one on one podcast after that.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/16/25 at 8:53 pm to
He alleges that now.

All those idiots sound so dumb.

“Charlie secretly thought just like me!”

Stop.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 9/16/25 at 8:54 pm to
I’m just saying what he said, and Dave thinks Candace and Ian Carroll went too far with it.
Posted by StrongOffer
Member since Sep 2020
6396 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 8:54 pm to
Fuuuuuuuuckkkkk ooooooooffff

Edit: sorry didn’t read the OP. I’m getting really tired of hearing conspiracy theories that Israel was responsible for this. Idgaf about Israel but they aren’t the culprits of all the worlds evil.
This post was edited on 9/16/25 at 9:05 pm
Posted by 632627
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 9/16/25 at 8:54 pm to
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Well Dave alleges that Charlie texted him after the Douglas Murray debate and that he agreed with almost every word he said and that he wanted him in a one on one podcast after that.


there were two aspects of the Smith/Murray debate.

the first was the platforming of kooks passing themselves off as experts, which Murray accused Rogan of. Second, was the issue of Gaza.

if anything, Kirk agreed with Smith's side on the former.
Posted by JKeller34
Member since Sep 2025
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Posted on 9/16/25 at 8:55 pm to
Shapiro is a Jew who puts the Jews first as a podcast grifter.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
14683 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 8:55 pm to
quote:

I’m just saying what he said, and Dave thinks Candace and Ian Carroll went too far with it.


must suck for Dave realizing all his buddies are anti-Semites
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 9/16/25 at 8:56 pm to
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Shapiro is a Jew who puts the Jews first as a podcast grifter.


this conversation was on Kirk's channel, and Charlie was happy to let Ben "grift"
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 9/16/25 at 8:57 pm to
And to the OP, I’m not taking the word of someone who has a very direct line to Benjamin Netanyahu on this.

Yes I think the conspiracy theorists saying that Ben had some pre-knowledge of this are ridiculous and Ben is obviously torn up about Charlie’s death. Ben obviously wouldn’t have gone along with it, because Charlie’s death probably increases the chances of him getting assassinated by a factor of three.

Not to mention their personal relationship, but Ben being in the know about this is completely ridiculous since I’m sure he’s now tripling his security costs.
This post was edited on 9/16/25 at 8:58 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 8:59 pm to
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the first was the platforming of kooks passing themselves off as experts, which Murray accused Rogan of. Second, was the issue of Gaza.


And why is Murray, someone with merely an undergraduate in English, an expert? Just because he has a British accent?
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
16036 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 9:02 pm to
He turned down 150 mil. Why would he turn that down? What were they trying to by? What do you think the conversation was after he canceled his Israel trip and turned them down? I guess Bibi just loves him some good ole Christianity and wanted to say “thanks!”
Posted by Zap Rowsdower
MissLou, La
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 9/16/25 at 9:02 pm to
quote:

Charlie was turning on Israel


Is a fricking narrative trying to turn this horrible situation into the next great internet conspiracy to give grifters clicks, likes, and follows.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
8525 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 9:02 pm to
Are you taking up for the historian who claimed the Holocaust was all a big misunderstanding and that Churchill was the real war criminal?
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
14683 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 9:02 pm to
quote:

And why is Murray, someone with merely an undergraduate in English, an expert? Just because he has a British accent?



ohhh I don't know, he's been to the area multiple times, studied it, published multiple books, and is experiencing first hand in his home country the chaos that Islam brings?
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
42859 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 9:04 pm to
Stop fricking obsessing over Israel. God dammit it’s so annoying.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20674 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 9:05 pm to
I have real issues with the extent to which Israel influences American politics and culture via AIPAC and other means.

That said, there is no evidence to suggest they were involved with CKs death regardless of his shared concerns over their undue influence and the way they attempted to drag America into a larger conflict with Iran.
This post was edited on 9/17/25 at 5:53 am
Posted by Lieutenant Dan
Euthanasia, USA
Member since Jan 2009
8409 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 9:06 pm to
I thought Bill Ackman being the one to put up reward money for the details regarding information on the 22 year old was,.. odd.

He will essentially be giving the Robinson kids father 1.2 M.


Ackman is the same guy who had this "intervention" with CK 4 or 5 days before his death.

Posted by Mobile Patriot
Mobile
Member since Aug 2024
782 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 9:08 pm to
Charlie demanded the truth no matter how uncomfortable. He questioned whether they had intelligence that it was going to happen and stood down for maximum effect. Charlie explained his position on Patrick Bet Davids show.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125620 posts
Posted on 9/16/25 at 9:09 pm to
quote:

I thought Bill Ackman being the one to put up reward money for the details regarding information on the 22 year old was,.. odd.


Ooooooooooooooh
You know what that means?????


Nothing.
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