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Tell me about Starforge PCs
Posted on 9/16/25 at 8:28 am
Posted on 9/16/25 at 8:28 am
Yeah yeah build my own. I priced one out on pc part picker last night and it was almost 4k. these seem decent for the cost, wondering if anyone has used one in the past?
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Posted on 9/16/25 at 9:28 am to geauxtigers87
I have not used one, but I built a new PC in March this year. I spent about $2,500 which included a scalped GPU but it was as prices were coming down.
I just pulled up the most similar system I could find on the Starforge Site which is the Navigator III Elite. I have a 5070 ti and a 9800X3D processor and the Nav III Elite has a 9070XT and a 7800X3D. The other differences are basically meaningless. They are charging 2,300 which would be about $2,530 with tax.
The 5070ti is better in most cases and has better ray tracing performance. I have heard that the 9800X3D is not that big of an upgrade over the 7800X3D. I would say my PC is about 10% better than this one on average, but the gap increases with ray tracing enabled.
Looking at current prices, I estimate that if I built the exact same PC I built back in March, it would cost about $2,200 tax included. So Starforge has somewhere between a 15 and 20% markup over building it yourself if you factor in the slightly downgraded components compared to my build. That is not bad at all if you don't feel like dealing with the headache and don't mind some bloatware.
I just pulled up the most similar system I could find on the Starforge Site which is the Navigator III Elite. I have a 5070 ti and a 9800X3D processor and the Nav III Elite has a 9070XT and a 7800X3D. The other differences are basically meaningless. They are charging 2,300 which would be about $2,530 with tax.
The 5070ti is better in most cases and has better ray tracing performance. I have heard that the 9800X3D is not that big of an upgrade over the 7800X3D. I would say my PC is about 10% better than this one on average, but the gap increases with ray tracing enabled.
Looking at current prices, I estimate that if I built the exact same PC I built back in March, it would cost about $2,200 tax included. So Starforge has somewhere between a 15 and 20% markup over building it yourself if you factor in the slightly downgraded components compared to my build. That is not bad at all if you don't feel like dealing with the headache and don't mind some bloatware.
This post was edited on 9/16/25 at 9:29 am
Posted on 9/16/25 at 11:56 am to geauxtigers87
It's impossible to answer in a vacuum. Which system are you looking at?
As a categorical, Starforge is considered to be a "good" prebuilt PC company. However, they are also considered "expensive" in that they charge an even higher premium than some other prebuilt companies.
As a categorical, Starforge is considered to be a "good" prebuilt PC company. However, they are also considered "expensive" in that they charge an even higher premium than some other prebuilt companies.
Posted on 9/17/25 at 2:06 pm to Joshjrn
I bought one of their middle tier pcs last year and have been completely satisfied. I've built my own for the last 20 years but had been out of the game for a while so the extra cost was worth it.
Posted on 9/17/25 at 3:03 pm to Joshjrn
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As a categorical, Starforge is considered to be a "good" prebuilt PC company.
Not to hijack the thread, but what are other good (or better) prebuilt gaming PC companies?
This post was edited on 9/17/25 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 9/17/25 at 3:37 pm to Sl0thstronautEsq
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Not to hijack the thread, but what are other good (or better) prebuilt gaming PC companies?
iBuyPower and Cyberpower and kind of your biggest players. Sometimes you get a great PC, sometimes they make comically bad build errors.
This post was edited on 9/17/25 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 9/17/25 at 4:28 pm to geauxtigers87
I built the baddest PC you can build from scratch and it turned on the first time and everything worked
I'm basically retarded so if I can do it, you should do it too and save some money
I'm basically retarded so if I can do it, you should do it too and save some money
Posted on 9/17/25 at 4:38 pm to Carson123987
He knows someone that will do it for him. So he can still be a barely functional retard and have a nice pc.
Posted on 9/17/25 at 5:04 pm to Devious
Posted on 9/17/25 at 7:55 pm to Carson123987
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I'm basically retarded so if I can do it, you should do it too and save some money
Even beyond saving money, once you’ve built from scratch one time, it demystifies everything. It becomes trivial to troubleshoot issues, to upgrade components, etc. Computers as a system go from magic to just another machine.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 10:30 am to Sl0thstronautEsq
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Not to hijack the thread, but what are other good (or better) prebuilt gaming PC companies?
my current PC is from Redux. When i purchased mine they had the option to pick all the components yourself (from their list of course). i liked that a lot. since then they have transitioned to a pure prebuilt "This is what you get" model.
That said, the build was clean, installation of BS software was almost non-existent, i felt price was reasonable, and it came with a 2 year warranty. The warranty cant be understated. Nice knowing if anything does F-up you are covered no questions asked.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 11:01 am to geauxtigers87
probably a really good option and i think they have been responsive to past criticism etc
Posted on 9/18/25 at 4:34 pm to Carson123987
Here is where you get in trouble with the advice all IT guys give to build your own. 2 things. If one part is DOA it is not obvious and can be VERY difficult for someone to figure out what is causing the issue and it if breaks after the initial short arse store warranty and you have to RMA the manufacturer, it can take up to 2 months before they ship it back. I know this from my experiences with Gigabyte motherboards.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 4:44 pm to geauxtigers87
They initially hired the people that worked for the moron who imploded his boutique PC company by having a giveaway and then refusing to give the PC to the winner. Those were good workers working for a horrible person. No clue how many of them still work for Starforge. They are still a very new company but I know all involved not only want it to work out but they are all gamers and streamers. I thought about it with my last purchase but I wanted their business to cook a little more. They do look nice. Nexus has 2 reviews that were mostly positive and they don't hold back when they don't like something. Maybe a touch of not expecting it to be good so a bit of shock causing them to be a bit more positive than they normally would be.
I've built several PCs. I bought a DOA IBUYPOWER pc and they wanted me to do all sorts of stuff including a clean windows 10 install on a brand new computer, i said, no. Give me my money back.
I loved my CorsairOne but such a small device ran a bit too hot. The 3090 and 4090 versions were even worse and they latest version was destroyed by a Nexus review. I did get a full tower Corsair Vengeance which ran fine. I nearly killed it by never cleaning and easy to clean dust filter but that was on me not Corsair.
I've built several PCs. I bought a DOA IBUYPOWER pc and they wanted me to do all sorts of stuff including a clean windows 10 install on a brand new computer, i said, no. Give me my money back.
I loved my CorsairOne but such a small device ran a bit too hot. The 3090 and 4090 versions were even worse and they latest version was destroyed by a Nexus review. I did get a full tower Corsair Vengeance which ran fine. I nearly killed it by never cleaning and easy to clean dust filter but that was on me not Corsair.
This post was edited on 9/18/25 at 4:50 pm
Posted on 9/18/25 at 8:36 pm to TigerMyth36
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Here is where you get in trouble with the advice all IT guys give to build your own.
I’m construction guy, not IT
I truly don’t understand how someone could frick it up barring a straight up defective part from the factory
Posted on 9/18/25 at 8:57 pm to Carson123987
Isn't that exactly what I said. I didn't say you had to be in IT. I said IT guys on here are always telling people to build their own and you listed one of my two points. Thank you. DOA parts happen all of the time and a newbie with no experience whatsoever isn't going to have any clue which part is broken unless they were lucky enough to buy a motherboard that spits out a useful code. My second point being replacement when something brakes when the store warranty has expired and you have to deal with the manufacturer. It is a nightmare and dealing with a prebuilt company will be much faster than dealing with individual part RMAs. That is a simple fact.
I'm not even saying that building is bad but you guys make it sound like it is lightspeed ahead of getting a prebuilt. For some sure it is. For people willing to pay the premium to have someone else build it, it might be worth having a longer warranty and and easier way to fix things if they arrive DOA.
I build PCs at work. I can't tell you how many bad parts we have received over the years. New Egg went to complete and utter shite and when you report a 3rd party for selling outright broken trash, they never shut them down. New Egg went from great to absolute shite. You could add buying the actual components can be sticky if you don't know which sites to avoid. PC Part Picker uses New Egg as one of their main merchants when picking parts. I would not send my WORST enemy a link to New Egg at this point.
I'm not even saying that building is bad but you guys make it sound like it is lightspeed ahead of getting a prebuilt. For some sure it is. For people willing to pay the premium to have someone else build it, it might be worth having a longer warranty and and easier way to fix things if they arrive DOA.
I build PCs at work. I can't tell you how many bad parts we have received over the years. New Egg went to complete and utter shite and when you report a 3rd party for selling outright broken trash, they never shut them down. New Egg went from great to absolute shite. You could add buying the actual components can be sticky if you don't know which sites to avoid. PC Part Picker uses New Egg as one of their main merchants when picking parts. I would not send my WORST enemy a link to New Egg at this point.
This post was edited on 9/18/25 at 9:00 pm
Posted on 9/18/25 at 9:10 pm to TigerMyth36
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would not send my WORST enemy a link to New Egg at t
Where would you recommend sourcing parts? I thought about building a desktop just as a hobby since I've never built my own.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 9:12 pm to TigerMyth36
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Isn't that exactly what I said. I didn't say you had to be in IT. I said IT guys on here are always telling people to build their own and you listed one of my two points.
Well you replied to my post saying he should try building his own so I think a reasonable person would assume you were lumping me in with the IT guys that recommend to build lol
This post was edited on 9/18/25 at 9:14 pm
Posted on 9/19/25 at 8:10 am to TigerMyth36
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Here is where you get in trouble with the advice all IT guys give to build your own.
I don’t work in tech, at all.
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things. If one part is DOA it is not obvious and can be VERY difficult for someone to figure out what is causing the issue
Only if you badly cheap out on the motherboard. I’ve never put together a parts list for someone that included a motherboard that didn’t have both bios flashback as well as debug lights at a minimum, with a preference for a post code display.
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and it if breaks after the initial short arse store warranty and you have to RMA the manufacturer, it can take up to 2 months before they ship it back. I know this from my experiences with Gigabyte motherboards.
I would say this is a much more legitimate complaint. With that said, you could have just immediately gone and purchased a second motherboard, had zero downtime, still have saved money relative to a prebuilt, and own a backup motherboard as a cherry on top.
Eta: Saw your second post after. Lucky enough to buy a motherboard with post codes? Come on, man. This isn’t the fricking lottery
This post was edited on 9/19/25 at 8:14 am
Posted on 9/19/25 at 7:49 pm to Joshjrn
The average person doesn't even know to look for a motherboard that gives you usable info. I sure didn't at first but I've seen some at work that did a solid job of pointing to the issue.
I'm probably a bit jaded because I had a lot of issues with my first PC and then my 3rd PC got hit by lightning. Sounded like a bomb went off on my roof and I look outside and there is one big black cloud in the sky and the rest was blue. God was not happy with me for some reason.
AI tells me that even cheap mother boards now have good post codes with displays but not sure I trust AI.
I'm probably a bit jaded because I had a lot of issues with my first PC and then my 3rd PC got hit by lightning. Sounded like a bomb went off on my roof and I look outside and there is one big black cloud in the sky and the rest was blue. God was not happy with me for some reason.
AI tells me that even cheap mother boards now have good post codes with displays but not sure I trust AI.
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