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How has the gun not been more traceable. It is not easy to find untraceable guns for most
Posted on 9/11/25 at 8:32 pm
Posted on 9/11/25 at 8:32 pm
Folks.
I am surprised we have not heard more about the gun.
I am surprised we have not heard more about the gun.
This post was edited on 9/11/25 at 8:34 pm
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 8:32 pm to ItTakesAThief
Wut
Posted on 9/11/25 at 8:33 pm to ItTakesAThief
It’s going to have prints, whether from the weapon or ammo
Posted on 9/11/25 at 8:33 pm to ItTakesAThief
Trace it to what? There is no “gun purchase database”.
This post was edited on 9/11/25 at 8:34 pm
Posted on 9/11/25 at 8:34 pm to ItTakesAThief
What do you want traced? Ownership? That information ain’t coming out until everyone who needs to be in custody is in custody.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 8:35 pm to ItTakesAThief
Serial numbers can be filed off. If you're going to something illegal, do it with an illegal gun
Posted on 9/11/25 at 8:37 pm to ItTakesAThief
This was a setup. The footage of those security personnel signaling less than 2 seconds before Kirk was shot is irrefutable.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 8:38 pm to ItTakesAThief
ATF trace goes to the manufacturer first with the serial number and traces from there. Normal case takes 1-2 weeks. The NTC(National Trace Center) probably has 100 agents working this case.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 8:39 pm to dnm3305
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This was a setup. The footage of those security personnel signaling less than 2 seconds before Kirk was shot is irrefutable.
I’ve seen this theory but why would his security guys want him killed? It’s not like he was a prick and now they don’t have a job.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 8:40 pm to ItTakesAThief
There is no national gun registry. The best you can get is an ATF gun trace which is essentially a purchase history from manufacture to dealer and all subsequent sales that went through an FFL. This however does not include private party sales or gifting firearms. I guarantee you they have already done that. As another poster posted in normal circumstances this takes some time but that’s because there is long line of requests for these. This would have gone straight to top of the stack.
As far as fingerprints, first you have to get a clean print which is pretty rare on rounded surfaces like the metal on a firearm or bullet/cartridge. Then, even if you are lucky and get one you have to have the matching print be in a database for it to be worth anything as far as identifying an unknown suspect.
I say all this as someone who uses this type of info on a regular basis.
As far as fingerprints, first you have to get a clean print which is pretty rare on rounded surfaces like the metal on a firearm or bullet/cartridge. Then, even if you are lucky and get one you have to have the matching print be in a database for it to be worth anything as far as identifying an unknown suspect.
I say all this as someone who uses this type of info on a regular basis.
This post was edited on 9/11/25 at 8:42 pm
Posted on 9/11/25 at 8:47 pm to JKeller34
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I’ve seen this theory but why would his security guys want him killed? It’s not like he was a prick and now they don’t have a job.
Because maybe they weren’t just security guards. Do you think Kirk has a personal relationship will every security guard on every detail?
Posted on 9/11/25 at 8:50 pm to TigernMS12
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I say all this as someone who uses this type of info on a regular basis.
There is always DNA, it's impossible to strip clean all of it.
Then just find his relatives who went on 42 and me.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 9:03 pm to dnm3305
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Because maybe they weren’t just security guards. Do you think Kirk has a personal relationship will every security guard on every detail?
It’s not like he had a 50 man Secret Service detail. Probably a handful of regulars hired out by a private executive team. Most likely highly vetted and former SWAT and/or military.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 9:06 pm to dnm3305
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Because maybe they weren’t just security guards.
This theory is so dumb.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 9:07 pm to JKeller34
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I’ve seen this theory but why would his security guys want him killed? It’s not like he was a prick and now they don’t have a job.
And what is gained by signaling?
Posted on 9/11/25 at 9:07 pm to JKeller34
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It’s not like he was a prick and now they don’t have a job.
My one client died under our security isn’t going to bring in business.
They essentially ruined their lives and career.
So no.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 9:08 pm to coonass27
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Trace it to what? There is no “gun purchase database”.
But in all likelihood, the company that imported the Mauser has been closed for a long time, the distributor it sold to has been out of business, and the original gun store is out of business, all before records became digitalised.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 9:09 pm to ItTakesAThief
How do we know the gun they “found” is the actual gun used to shoot Kirk? That young guy in black might be a patsy for the deep state. “They’ll never think it was us if we write some tranny bullshite on the gun and throw it in the woods beside the main highway for someone to find.”
Posted on 9/11/25 at 9:12 pm to dnm3305
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The footage of those security personnel signaling less than 2 seconds before Kirk was shot
Can you post a link to this. I have not heard that and would like to see it.
Thanks in advance.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 9:20 pm to Harald Ekernson
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How do we know the gun they “found” is the actual gun used to shoot Kirk?
Spent round-matched to the rifling on the rifle.
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