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So, "The Death Valley argument"

Posted on 8/31/25 at 4:19 pm
Posted by DeafVallyBatnR
Member since Sep 2004
18188 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 4:19 pm
So what, who ever started it first. No big deal to me. But, they stole all our music. That shite is criminal. Back to Death Valley. I am pretty sure it's been in recent years with upgrades that Clemson that they added "Welcome" to the Death Valley sign.
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 4:19 pm to
Did they play Neck?
Posted by Phillytiger9
Philadelphia/Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2022
1121 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 4:21 pm to
I’m going to be honest and non biased.

Clemson was Death Valley before LSU. It doesn’t make us not Death Valley.

We are both Death Valley, they were first, we are better.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
10453 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 4:27 pm to
quote:

We are both Death Valley, they were first, we are better.


correct.
like when an artist covers a song that blows the original out of the water.

Sure Dylan wrote “All Along the Watchtower”, but that’s a fricking Hendrix song now.
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
9008 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 4:32 pm to
quote:

So, "The Death Valley argument"


Isn’t really an argument at all
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
26062 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 4:32 pm to
Yeah, we have our own thing with Tiger Stadium. They have their thing with the rock, etc. It doesn't bother me. Adds fun to the small rivalry we have since we barely ever play each other. Our place is obviously more intimidating though.
Posted by Endorphins
Member since Jun 2022
1583 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 4:34 pm to
This petty argument all centers around one specific idea.
What stadium do you think of when death valley is mentioned? Obviously the 2 states notwithstanding are going to say their own, however who does the nation think of?

Everyone outside of South Carolina thinks of LSU, and that's what matters.
Posted by OU812ME2
Earth
Member since Jun 2021
1309 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 4:34 pm to
After last night we should steal their rock just to frick with them.
Posted by liquid rabbit
Boxtard BPB®© emeritus
Member since Mar 2006
64439 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 4:36 pm to
I think part of the confusion is there is also a Baton Rouge in South Carolina, believe it or not. About 100 miles from Clemson.
Posted by Swamp Frog x
Member since Nov 2024
770 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 4:38 pm to
They also both started using the name in the late 40s or 50s. The people who started it or stole it are all dead and gone.

Even if Clemson did use the name first. It’s not like LSU just started using it this century.
Posted by themachinist
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
50 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 4:42 pm to
I’m 73 yrs old & the stadium was called
Deaf Valley. When did it become
Death Valley?? Inquiring minds want
to know.
Posted by Endorphins
Member since Jun 2022
1583 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 4:43 pm to
I suppose that could throw some kind of confusion, but I don't see how. It's obvious with the big arse LSU, standing for Louisiana.
Posted by ctowntiger
Centreville, MS
Member since Jul 2005
862 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 4:46 pm to
Clemson DV = Mobile Mardi Gras.
They can have the original one. I’m content to have the better one.
Posted by BoogieWoogie
Brusly
Member since Feb 2022
40 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 4:47 pm to
I’m 76 years old and lived in the stadium when I went to LSU. I don’t really remember which is correct but they’re both true!!
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
19119 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 4:50 pm to
quote:

The Death Valley argument


The “leadership” at LSU is slowly but surely decimating the Tiger Stadium atmosphere.

It’s sad.
Posted by uftiger
Citrus County
Member since Jan 2008
738 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 5:07 pm to
I'm only 72. It was called both Death Valley and Deaf Valley 55 years ago in my first of 7 years at LSU.

Posted by Stadium Rat
Metairie
Member since Jul 2004
10063 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 10:01 pm to
They copied the colors and "Tigers" mascot from Auburn. John Heisman, yes that Heisman, coached Auburn and then later coached at Clempson. He copied it.

Clempson's use of 'Death Valley' was documented in print before our use of it, as I understand it. But LSU used it within a year or 2, at most. To me it's telling that they have to specify that "Clempson Welcomes You to Death Valley" Our sign doesn't have to specify - everybody knows they're in the real one.

"Tiger Rag' is a obviously an early jazz tune from New Orleans roots.

In other news, the first ever documented use of the phrase "24/7" in print was a quote from an LSU basketball player in Sports Illustrated.
This post was edited on 8/31/25 at 10:38 pm
Posted by 318_931_757_251_LSU
South Mobile Parish!
Member since Oct 2018
38 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 10:15 pm to
When we dared to say... "it's where your dreams go to die!"
Posted by Stadium Rat
Metairie
Member since Jul 2004
10063 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 10:24 pm to
We also stole "Neck" from Southern.

The Saints stole "Who Dat" from us, who stole it from Patterson HS, when Dalton Hilliard played there.
Posted by thekid
Anna, Tx
Member since May 2006
4033 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 10:36 pm to
And then the Bengals stole it from the saints but changed it from dat to Dey.
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