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Why does Mickey continue to
Posted on 8/20/25 at 10:01 pm
Posted on 8/20/25 at 10:01 pm
Believe we are contenders? We are FAR from even a 500 team. We need to build from the draft and hope we hit. Therefore, keep all the draft picks. Giving up a 4th (which will be a low 4th pick) for a 28 year old WR with knee issues is beyond stupid. We are rebuilding and should act that way.
This post was edited on 8/20/25 at 10:06 pm
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 10:26 pm to whodat4ever
You’re looking at this all wrong :
Loomis knows the Saints are not contenders.
Loomis is worried for his job ** but he will Keep his job in Perpetuity unless these 3 things occur SIMULTANEOUSLY…..
1) Saints end up with worst record or second worst record in the league
2) Saints Fans stop going to games and stop renewing season tickets.
3) The Nawlins MEDIA launches an All-Out assault against Both the organization and owner…. as an absolutely embarrassment to the city; giving the team ceaseless Bad PR.
All Loomis has to do is keep the aforementioned 3 items from happening All-At-Once and at the SAME time.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 10:43 pm to TigerSaurus
Here is 1 more way he could face the unemployment line:
People with access to Gayle Benson get pissed off enough to go speak to her about his performance. Problem is that some of them will tolerate him in charge because they benefit from his choices.
Loomis isn't necessarily untouchable/all powerful; he didn't manage to save Dennis Allen last year.
People with access to Gayle Benson get pissed off enough to go speak to her about his performance. Problem is that some of them will tolerate him in charge because they benefit from his choices.
Loomis isn't necessarily untouchable/all powerful; he didn't manage to save Dennis Allen last year.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 11:08 pm to TigerSaurus
Loomis has a job for life. Any other organization would've fired him by now. Mrs B is following what Mr. B wanted.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 11:43 pm to whodat4ever
Mickey Loomis the the worst General Manager in sports.
Allowing this guy to pull the strings on the franchise in any regard is seriously detrimental to our rebuild. I don't give a damn about whatever contribution he may or may not have made to our sole Super Bowl win. That is ancient history.
Mickey Loomis cannot be trusted to manage the roster, seek talent, sign contracts, make trades or make draft picks. He is an bad government worker barely showing up or paying attention at the DMV, without a care in the world. He operates without urgency, like a guy with a job for life.
Nothing will change until Mickey Loomis is gone.
#FIRELOOMIS
Allowing this guy to pull the strings on the franchise in any regard is seriously detrimental to our rebuild. I don't give a damn about whatever contribution he may or may not have made to our sole Super Bowl win. That is ancient history.
Mickey Loomis cannot be trusted to manage the roster, seek talent, sign contracts, make trades or make draft picks. He is an bad government worker barely showing up or paying attention at the DMV, without a care in the world. He operates without urgency, like a guy with a job for life.
Nothing will change until Mickey Loomis is gone.
#FIRELOOMIS
Posted on 8/20/25 at 11:49 pm to whodat4ever
Posted on 8/21/25 at 12:00 am to Da #1 Stunna
100% correct!
This post was edited on 8/21/25 at 11:05 am
Posted on 8/21/25 at 12:41 am to whodat4ever
I dont like giving a 4th but you cant expect the lollipop guild WR Corps we have to help us give a proper evaluation of Rattler or Shough.
He is still cost controlled for 3 years, 6'5 215 4.47 is also very attractive
Let's see if this guy can be a 3rd, 4th, 5th receiver first
With no Taysom or Foster we needed another option besides Johnson for RZ, Constested catches, and size
His win rate there is 60%. Which is ok but that's the biggest number on him that has to improve.
He is still cost controlled for 3 years, 6'5 215 4.47 is also very attractive
Let's see if this guy can be a 3rd, 4th, 5th receiver first
With no Taysom or Foster we needed another option besides Johnson for RZ, Constested catches, and size
His win rate there is 60%. Which is ok but that's the biggest number on him that has to improve.
Posted on 8/21/25 at 1:04 am to partywiththelombardi
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I dont like giving a 4th but you cant expect the lollipop guild WR Corps we have to help us give a proper evaluation of Rattler or Shough.
Wasn’t Loomis responsible for handing out significant money to Cooks? He could have signed a taller receiver than an older version of exactly what we have already…..
This post was edited on 8/21/25 at 1:05 am
Posted on 8/21/25 at 3:55 am to TigerSaurus
I love this place
So the narrative here is that Mickey walked into the coaching staff offices and told Moore & Co.: "hey guys, I traded away two draft picks to get us a wide receiver you didn't ask for!"
Do I have that right?
So the narrative here is that Mickey walked into the coaching staff offices and told Moore & Co.: "hey guys, I traded away two draft picks to get us a wide receiver you didn't ask for!"
Do I have that right?
Posted on 8/21/25 at 6:15 am to Townedrunkard
Significant money? When is 6 mill a year significant money?
Posted on 8/21/25 at 6:19 am to jmcwhrter
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So the narrative here is that Mickey walked into the coaching staff offices and told Moore & Co.: "hey guys, I traded away two draft picks to get us a wide receiver you didn't ask for!"
Do I have that right?
No. However, if our coaching said that they needed a bigger receiver, they should have been told that we're not going to be good this year and we can't use the draft capital for a guy we hope may be a third receiver on a terrible team. In what world does that make sense?
That's why the framing in op is correct. Why do we keep thinking that we are contenders? We're giving up valuable capital to then ultimately be wasted completely, as even if this moves the needle slightly. It won't do anything towards winning a title.
This post was edited on 8/21/25 at 7:55 am
Posted on 8/21/25 at 6:58 am to SlowFlowPro
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No. However, if our coaching session that they needed a bigger receiver, they should have been told that we're not going to be good this year and we can't use the draft capital for a guy we hope may be a third receiver on a terrible team. In what world does that make sense? That's why the framing in op is correct. Why do we keep thinking that we are contenders? We're giving up valuable capital to then ultimately be wasted completely, as even if this moves the needle slightly. It won't do anything towards winning a title
Exactly. And if we need a “bigger body” receiver it’s not like there won’t be a few replacement level players available after cuts for cheap. The more I think about this deal the less it makes sense.
Posted on 8/21/25 at 7:06 am to whodat4ever
Mickey is a dumbass. When you are a rebuilding an organization you do everything you can to get more future picks. Sean realizes this and is using Mickey to farm his picks. Take a bum out of the 7th round, give him a few touchdowns and sell him to Mickey for a 4th and another 7th. Textbook art of the deal by Sean.
Posted on 8/21/25 at 8:01 am to Da #1 Stunna
The Bensons have always valued “loyalty” above all else. A review of prominent positions in the organization
over a period of years confirms this fact.
over a period of years confirms this fact.
Posted on 8/21/25 at 9:56 am to whodat4ever
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Any other organization would've fired him by now
I do not believe this is a true statement at all. Sure, there are some that would have fired him, but not any other ones.
Do you think he overspends every year without the approval of Benson or Lauscha? Does this board really believe that those 2 are not aware of the cap situations, while also continuing to give him the green light to try to manipulate the cap and bring in FAs?
Dennis Allen was his 1 bad hire. His other hire before Moore was Payton. You give a GM that kind of history, just about every team in the league would give him at least 1 more chance. Now, if Moore falls flat on his face after giving legitimate opportunities (i.e., not judged by the results for 2025 and may be 2026); then you will see where Loomis falls in the eyes of the front office. Of course he'll be in his early 70s by then, so he may be out of the door by then anyway.
Posted on 8/21/25 at 11:15 am to partywiththelombardi
I dont like giving a 4th but you cant expect the lollipop guild WR Corps we have to help us give a proper evaluation of Rattler or Shough.
He is still cost controlled for 3 years, 6'5 215 4.47 is also very attractive
Let's see if this guy can be a 3rd, 4th, 5th receiver first
With no Taysom or Foster we needed another option besides Johnson for RZ, Constested catches, and size
His win rate there is 60%. Which is ok but that's the biggest number on him that has to improve.
Again-we are currently on a rebuilding mode. Everyone should realize at this point. Rattler and the rookie will not be starting on a legitimate contender in 3 years. Our future QB is on a college team. Our lollipop group of receivers will help us get a QB in next years draft. Hold on to our draft picks and get more by trading vets away. Clearance sale!
Do you think WR that we now have will get us to 500? He'll be 28 during the season, knee issues, didn't participate in mini camp, wasn't 100% in training camp and was a 7th round in the 2024 draft. And now, the Broncos are getting a 4th and 7th for a guy with knee issues!
Face the facts, we s*ck and we need to build from the draft.
He is still cost controlled for 3 years, 6'5 215 4.47 is also very attractive
Let's see if this guy can be a 3rd, 4th, 5th receiver first
With no Taysom or Foster we needed another option besides Johnson for RZ, Constested catches, and size
His win rate there is 60%. Which is ok but that's the biggest number on him that has to improve.
Again-we are currently on a rebuilding mode. Everyone should realize at this point. Rattler and the rookie will not be starting on a legitimate contender in 3 years. Our future QB is on a college team. Our lollipop group of receivers will help us get a QB in next years draft. Hold on to our draft picks and get more by trading vets away. Clearance sale!
Do you think WR that we now have will get us to 500? He'll be 28 during the season, knee issues, didn't participate in mini camp, wasn't 100% in training camp and was a 7th round in the 2024 draft. And now, the Broncos are getting a 4th and 7th for a guy with knee issues!
Face the facts, we s*ck and we need to build from the draft.
Posted on 8/21/25 at 11:30 am to Weekend Warrior79
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I do not believe this is a true statement at all. Sure, there are some that would have fired him, but not any other ones.
Do you think he overspends every year without the approval of Benson or Lauscha? Does this board really believe that those 2 are not aware of the cap situations, while also continuing to give him the green light to try to manipulate the cap and bring in FAs?
Dennis Allen was his 1 bad hire. His other hire before Moore was Payton. You give a GM that kind of history, just about every team in the league would give him at least 1 more chance. Now, if Moore falls flat on his face after giving legitimate opportunities (i.e., not judged by the results for 2025 and may be 2026); then you will see where Loomis falls in the eyes of the front office. Of course he'll be in his early 70s by then, so he may be out of the door by then anyway.
My friend, you're correct about DA being his only bad hire, but don't forget he didn't want to fire DA. Also, kicking the can down the road with horrible restructure contracts. Over paying on aging vets. No other owner would accept this.
Posted on 8/21/25 at 11:37 am to whodat4ever
If he can be a 1-3 WR for us it's a good deal. If not it will be less than good.
To those thinking Loomis went out and got a player just to force it on his new coach's team please go back to your Pickle Ball ref job.
To those thinking Loomis went out and got a player just to force it on his new coach's team please go back to your Pickle Ball ref job.
Posted on 8/21/25 at 1:20 pm to whodat4ever
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he didn't want to fire DA.
That’s may be partially true. I recall seeing something saying he didn’t want to fire him midseason, or at that time. The way it was worded was he basically was moving towards making the decision in the offseason, not November
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Also, kicking the can down the road with horrible restructure contracts. Over paying on aging vets. No other owner would accept this.
I addressed this when I pointed out that there is no way he spends the money the way he does without Gayle or Lauscha having some input or knowledge.
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