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I Posted on the OT as well but: Inside the Mind of the High School Sports Parent in 2025
Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:14 pm
Nachitoches Parish Journal Article
We are so soft as a society.
Maybe at the High School level the Coach is trying to play the best player in an effort to try to win games so he doesn't get shitcanned?
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But when summer ball came, those promises were broken. The same handful of players dominated the field, and freshmen were added to JV and Varsity rosters—while upperclassmen who had spent years working hard for the team were left on the bench.
We are so soft as a society.
Maybe at the High School level the Coach is trying to play the best player in an effort to try to win games so he doesn't get shitcanned?
Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:23 pm to Tarpon08
In reading the letter, I see that two different coaches looked at the same group of players and selected the same, younger kids to play.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:38 pm to Tarpon08
The part about playing the same players on JV and Varsity is strange.
Except for the borderline guys who played just a little on the varsity, why would any varsity starter also play JV?
Except for the borderline guys who played just a little on the varsity, why would any varsity starter also play JV?
Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:52 pm to Keys Open Doors
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Except for the borderline guys who played just a little on the varsity, why would any varsity starter also play JV?
For reps, duh if they’re not a senior
Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:57 pm to Keys Open Doors
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The part about playing the same players on JV and Varsity is strange.
Except for the borderline guys who played just a little on the varsity, why would any varsity starter also play JV?
That was my question as well.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 2:06 pm to Tarpon08
I went to a huge high school and we had varsity, junior varsity, sophomore, and 2 freshmen soccer teams. When I was on the sophomore team, we had 4 freshman “play up” and the roster was overcrowded and my playing time suffered considerably from freshman year. I understand playing the best players on varsity, but that still pisses me off to this day. Freshman should either play varsity or freshman, not squeeze out the middle.
This post was edited on 8/20/25 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 8/20/25 at 2:06 pm to Keys Open Doors
Very likely position player who doesn’t get Varsity innings on the mound and still needs work in a game setting or vice versa.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 2:26 pm to TheWalrus
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I went to a huge high school and we had varsity, junior varsity, sophomore, and 2 freshmen soccer teams. When I was on the sophomore team, we had 4 freshman “play up” and the roster was overcrowded and my playing time suffered considerably from freshman year. I understand playing the best players on varsity, but that still pisses me off to this day. Freshman should either play varsity or freshman, not squeeze out the middle.
I'm an advocate for roster size limits, playing time requirements for non-varsity teams, and a no cut policy.
It actually helps the long term health and success of the program if instituted, but does create more work for the head coach of the varsity team and AD. But it's monumental for the development for many kids that would have never gotten the opportunity to learn to learn, get better at something, and compete. Which is what scholastic sports used to actually be about.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 2:34 pm to Tarpon08
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while upperclassmen who had spent years working hard for the team were left on the bench
Our HS girls basketball coach did this. Upperclassmen, most notably seniors, were prioritized in playing over better sophomores and juniors. Surprise, surprise, they sucked and had a losing record every year.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 2:52 pm to Tarpon08
As a parent whose kid played baseball from age 8 till his sophomore year, all I can say is tough crap. Playing sports in high school is a privilege, not a right. The coach has the duty to play the best kids and not worry about everyone's feelings. Now, playing rec ball for the city league is a whole different story, the parents pay money for their kid to play and every kid should see the field as much as possible, I have no problem with parents getting mad at the coaches if they are paying to play and their kids aren't playing.
It's hard to take the rose-colored glasses off and really subjectively see your kid for who they really are athletically. I get it. My kid was the best on the team when he was little. He was the starting short stop and the lead off batter up until high school. Most of the other kids have hit puberty and grew and got stronger and faster. It didn't hit my kid till after his sophomore year and by that time he was already fed up with it. Although he was still the best infielder on the high school team, the coaches went with the kids who could hit line drive doubles and home runs and could pitch in the mid 80's. I get it, I'd probably do the same thing but it still hurt knowing how hard he worked all those years, but I didn't go cry to the coach and write an article to the local paper or blog, good grief. I told him that you had to work harder than everyone else and hustle on and off the field and be a good teammate, no one was going to give him anything, he had to work for it and prove to the coach that he could play at that level. It was tough, he was about 5'2 and 95lbs, was super fast and could make all the plays in the field but he couldn't hit the long bombs and line drive doubles that the coach was looking for. He made the varsity team as a sophomore but didn't see any playing time, he started on the JV team and was playing well but there were kids his age and grade that were already starting on the varsity and he could see the writing on the wall, also, one of the parents was a big donor to the program. The school decided to change coaches again, this would have been the 4th coach in 4 years and he decided to quit baseball and play golf.
The good thing about individual sports is that there is no subjectivity in it and the parents can't give enough money to make their kid be the best., either they can run fast enough, beat all the guys on the wrestling team in their weight class, or shoot the lowest scores on the team or they can't, simple as that. The coach really doesn't have the ability to tell the kid who shoots 72 3 practice sessions in a row that were going to go ahead and put the kid who shot 82, 85 and 87 on the starting varsity team over you, he'd have a lot of explaining to do to the principal.
It's hard to take the rose-colored glasses off and really subjectively see your kid for who they really are athletically. I get it. My kid was the best on the team when he was little. He was the starting short stop and the lead off batter up until high school. Most of the other kids have hit puberty and grew and got stronger and faster. It didn't hit my kid till after his sophomore year and by that time he was already fed up with it. Although he was still the best infielder on the high school team, the coaches went with the kids who could hit line drive doubles and home runs and could pitch in the mid 80's. I get it, I'd probably do the same thing but it still hurt knowing how hard he worked all those years, but I didn't go cry to the coach and write an article to the local paper or blog, good grief. I told him that you had to work harder than everyone else and hustle on and off the field and be a good teammate, no one was going to give him anything, he had to work for it and prove to the coach that he could play at that level. It was tough, he was about 5'2 and 95lbs, was super fast and could make all the plays in the field but he couldn't hit the long bombs and line drive doubles that the coach was looking for. He made the varsity team as a sophomore but didn't see any playing time, he started on the JV team and was playing well but there were kids his age and grade that were already starting on the varsity and he could see the writing on the wall, also, one of the parents was a big donor to the program. The school decided to change coaches again, this would have been the 4th coach in 4 years and he decided to quit baseball and play golf.
The good thing about individual sports is that there is no subjectivity in it and the parents can't give enough money to make their kid be the best., either they can run fast enough, beat all the guys on the wrestling team in their weight class, or shoot the lowest scores on the team or they can't, simple as that. The coach really doesn't have the ability to tell the kid who shoots 72 3 practice sessions in a row that were going to go ahead and put the kid who shot 82, 85 and 87 on the starting varsity team over you, he'd have a lot of explaining to do to the principal.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 3:02 pm to KosmoCramer
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and a no cut policy.
I like this too. If a kid wants to play, work hard, attend all the practices, be a good teammate I'm all for it. It helps teach kids learn to be part of a team and overall good work ethic. What I am not in favor for at the high school level is that you are guaranteed playing time. The Freshman and JV teams are there to get kids ready to potentially play at the varsity level and if there are kids who can play but maybe aren't physically mature enough or who just need more reps, then that's who gets to play, that's just the way it is. There will be kids on the varsity team who don't see the playing field but who are very talented, it's just that they are more than likely playing behind an upperclassman and they need reps so they will play JV ball as well. You just can't play everyone unless you have enough players and coaches to make up several freshman and JV teams and most schools don't. I know it seems unfair but as far as I know, the FAIR only comes around once a year for about 2 weeks, in there it's fair for everyone.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 3:53 pm to dek81572
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What I am not in favor for at the high school level is that you are guaranteed playing time. The Freshman and JV teams are there to get kids ready to potentially play at the varsity level and if there are kids who can play but maybe aren't physically mature enough or who just need more reps, then that's who gets to play, that's just the way it is. There will be kids on the varsity team who don't see the playing field but who are very talented, it's just that they are more than likely playing behind an upperclassman and they need reps so they will play JV ball as well. You just can't play everyone unless you have enough players and coaches to make up several freshman and JV teams and most schools don't. I know it seems unfair but as far as I know, the FAIR only comes around once a year for about 2 weeks, in there it's fair for everyone.
The athletic program that I coach for creates enough teams to allow every athlete at the sub varsity level(if they come to practice every day, and follow the other rules and philosophies of the program), to have as equal as possible playing time with a goal of having kids on a roster for 133% of the number of players that play at a time. We even have a varsity B team for kids that would have gotten cut as seniors at any other school. They play against the varsity at lower level schools and actually so really well. So yes, it can be done actually. I have had a conversation with school leadership about requiring all or incentivizing some of the other athletic programs in the school to do the same. We would have kids come to the high school (private school, pay to play.but if a family can't afford it, we creatively find a way to make it happen for the betterment of the kid) solely because of that, and would have the healthiest culture in the entire country.
We have had an issue with a parent exactly one time in 15+ years.
Its a lot of work scheduling games, practices, getting good coaches that buy in, etc. but it is absolutely worth it and epitomizes what scholastic athletics is supposed to be about.
We won a state title with a senior starter that would have been cut by any other program as an underclassman.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 4:05 pm to Tarpon08
He’s complaining about a program that has done really well the past few years.,. They’ve made playoffs and gotten first round byes
Posted on 8/20/25 at 4:57 pm to KosmoCramer
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m an advocate for roster size limits, playing time requirements for non-varsity teams, and a no cut policy.
How do you have a roster limit but a no cut policy?
Posted on 8/20/25 at 5:24 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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How do you have a roster limit but a no cut policy?
Create multiple freshmen, JV or varsity teams
Posted on 8/20/25 at 5:35 pm to KosmoCramer
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How do you have a roster limit but a no cut policy?
Create multiple freshmen, JV or varsity teams
Pretty much impossible in Louisiana. There are limits to the number of coaches a school can employ.
Most large schools desperately need more coaches, not more kids.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 5:37 pm to Tarpon08
Years ago a very wise high school football coach I covered summed it up like this: “People don’t understand that this is not an avocation for us, it’s a vocation. It’s how we support our families.”
You don’t support your family in your vocation by not playing your best players.
You don’t support your family in your vocation by not playing your best players.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 8:12 pm to KosmoCramer
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Create multiple freshmen, JV or varsity teams
It’s a nightmare already trying find field space and scheduling games as well as quality coaches. In Georgia, football, cross country, and track are no cut sports already.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 8:37 pm to InkStainedWretch
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You don’t support your family in your vocation by not playing your best players.
At some schools you play whom you’re told to play whether they’re the best or not…
Posted on 8/20/25 at 9:22 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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It’s a nightmare already trying find field space and scheduling games as well as quality coaches. In Georgia, football, cross country, and track are no cut sports already.
It can be made to work, and if you don't have parents making a fuss about playing time, coaching is much less stressful, thus attracting more coaches.
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