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Looks like that big union raise is working out really well for UPS employees

Posted on 7/22/25 at 7:12 am
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
178932 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 7:12 am



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UPS is paying drivers to leave.

Oh and the letter is delivered BY actual UPS drivers too. How messed up is that?

$10K+ buyouts
20,000 job cuts
73 facilities closing
50% drop in Amazon volume

Teamsters say it violates the contract.

And this comes after UPS said in April it planned to cut 20,000 U.S. positions this year.





After the Teamsters contract kicked in and raised labor costs, UPS took a hard look at their deal with Amazon and basically said, “This isn’t working anymore.” They’d been giving Amazon huge volume discounts for years, but once you factored in the new wages, they were practically delivering those packages for free, sometimes filling up entire trucks with low-margin Amazon stuff.

So UPS told Amazon they wanted to scale it back to the tune of a 50% reduction. Now, instead of letting Amazon take over the whole truck, the trucks are about half Amazon, half normal (and more profitable) packages. They’d rather ship fewer boxes that actually turn a profit than haul around Amazon’s bulk for next to nothing, and this all came about as a direct result of the union pushing for that absurd contract because prior to that, Amazon packages were still profitable.


The union cost these people their jobs but do you think any of them will learn a lesson and refuse to join a union at their next job?




UPS plunged after saying it would deliver fewer Amazon packages. Its CEO says it's about 'taking control of our destiny.'

UPS Stands by Call to Scale Back Amazon Business Despite New Tariff Challenges
This post was edited on 7/22/25 at 7:13 am
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22111 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 7:17 am to
Looks like a capitalist company.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
12661 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 7:21 am to
You know what I hate about Unions? That they never look at both sides of the fence. How are you going to complain about labor violation when there's no money to complain about?

They'll suck UPS dry and move on to the next foolish logistics company they can gain a foothold in.
Posted by Themicah86
Member since Jun 2023
2483 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 7:22 am to
Their drivers make like 30+ dollars an hour, have full time benefits as seasonal employees and deliver packages just like Fed ex and amazon do for a comparable price while fed ex an amazon pay half of that. . Im stunned this whole thing has made it as long as it has. They also have a ton of opportunities to make double time wages.

Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
36698 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 7:26 am to
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The union cost these people their jobs but do you think any of them will learn a lesson and refuse to join a union at their next job?
Unions once served a purpose but now they are only good for costing jobs.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
178932 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 7:28 am to
Unions did serve a purpose but should have died when federal workforce laws came about.
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
5995 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 7:29 am to
quote:

Unions once served a purpose but now they are only good for costing jobs.


Now do major league football and baseball.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
178932 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 7:33 am to
quote:

Now do major league football and baseball.



Those unions work because idiots have been brainwashed into still paying for NFL Sunday Ticket, higher streaming prices, higher actual ticket prices, etc and they have no other competition.

UPS has competition, and people have limits on what they will pay to ship something.
Posted by AlterDWI
Pattern Noticing, Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
5845 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 7:35 am to
You'd have to be crazy to take that deal.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
178932 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 7:37 am to
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You'd have to be crazy to take that deal.



Or only a few months away from retirement and leaving early isn't going to affect your benefits
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37653 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 7:41 am to
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Key highlights of the contract include:

Wage Increases:
All current UPS Teamsters will receive a total of $7.50 per hour in wage increases over the life of the contract, with an immediate increase of $2.75 per hour.

Part-Time Pay:
Part-time starting pay was raised to $21 per hour immediately, and will increase to $23 per hour by the end of the contract.

Longevity Pay: Part-time employees with over five years of service will receive an additional longevity increase of up to $1.50 per hour.

Full-Time Driver Compensation: Full-time drivers will earn an average top rate of $49 per hour, according to NBC News.

Elimination of Mandatory Overtime: The contract eliminates mandatory overtime for drivers.

Other Improvements: The contract also includes improvements in health and welfare benefits, safety measures, and other working conditions.



Some of those drivers probably don’t even have HS diplomas and they’re making $50 / hr? GTFO w/ that bs.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
20967 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 7:49 am to
That's the down side to unions. The idea and power of united representation is good, until humans and our inherent greed become involved and ruin it.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
36698 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 7:52 am to
quote:

Now do major league football and baseball.
Can't. Don't watch either. But, I probably quit when unions got involved. Don't remember.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
36698 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 7:55 am to
quote:

All current UPS Teamsters will receive a total of $7.50 per hour in wage increases over the life of the contract, with an immediate increase of $2.75 per hour.

Some friends right out of high school in the early 70s were making $7.50 an hour when most labor types were making $2.50. It was good job if you had connections but toting boxes for 40 years took its toll.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
19240 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 7:56 am to
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Can't. Don't watch either. But, I probably quit when unions got involved. Don't remember.

What do you watch CFB? That will be next.
Posted by sidewalkside
rent free in yo head
Member since Sep 2021
4162 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 7:57 am to
Read the details...the payment is IN ADDITION to your already accrued retirement benefits. Anybody that is less that a few years out from retirement will gladly take it.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
111879 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 8:00 am to
quote:

The union cost these people their jobs


Shocking
Posted by back9Tiger
Island Coconut Salesman
Member since Nov 2005
17499 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 8:00 am to
Union need to be done away with. Awful organizations and this is more proof of it.
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
5542 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 8:02 am to
Did you just compare the players unions to labor unions? The only thing the two have in common is the word “union” lol
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
27058 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 8:05 am to
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50% drop in Amazon volume


This is hard to believe , every time I walk outside there's a delivery truck of some type going through the neighborhood.

They must deliver at least 100 packages a week just up and down our street

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