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Gavin Newsom on SRS

Posted on 7/15/25 at 11:44 am
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
5351 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 11:44 am
Anyone listen to Sean Ryan interview Gavin Newsom yet? I got about 20 minutes in before I couldn't go anymore.

He's a smooth talker, but much of his viewpoints seem to be predicated on lies or conflated data.

This post was edited on 7/15/25 at 11:45 am
Posted by JellyRoll
Member since Apr 2024
1409 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 11:45 am to
quote:

seem to be predicated on lies



No seem about it.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
36239 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 11:45 am to
No way in the world I waste a single minute of my time on the greasy frick.

Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
92781 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 11:45 am to
Did Sean even press him on the fires in CA?

Posted by BurlesonCountyAg
Member since Jan 2014
4525 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 11:49 am to
Gavin claimed people are moving to California. Is that accurate? I’m skeptical.
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
5351 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 11:50 am to
You can get a sense of their mindset through the way he explains it. I admittedly have never heard him speak.

He says several times the decisions were based on such and such data, or it's what the people of California wanted "overwhelmingly", but the data was faulty, or the people were misled.

He has just enough distance from the trigger to present each decision as bona fide.
Posted by Cryin Kelly
Member since Dec 2023
323 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 11:53 am to
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Gavin claimed people are moving to California. Is that accurate? I’m skeptical.


California as its own country would be the 5th biggest economy in the world. Of course people will always be moving there. 10s of Thousands every year.

The question is does that replace the ones leaving.

The current trend is no. More people are leaving than moving to California every year.
Posted by jamiegla1
Member since Aug 2016
7881 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 11:59 am to
i was barely able to get past all the "man, bro, brother" shmarmy BS from Gavin. But when Shawn did not press him on gun violence in red states vs their democrat cities, I lost a tremendous amount of respect for Shawn. He's a nice guy and all but he was being used by Gavin. He wasnt doing his own listeners any favors.
Posted by BurlesonCountyAg
Member since Jan 2014
4525 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 12:04 pm to
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But when Shawn did not press him on gun violence in red states vs their democrat cities, I


Gavin was smart and framed it as per capita or ratio or something like that. It made it impossible for Sean to argue without having stats in front of him.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116638 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 12:08 pm to
quote:

Gavin claimed people are moving to California. Is that accurate?

Does 'people' include non citizens?
Posted by Bandit1980
God's Country
Member since Nov 2019
4410 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 12:12 pm to
Yes it is................................illegal immigrants.
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
5351 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 12:13 pm to
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Gavin was smart and framed it as per capita or ratio or something like that. It made it impossible for Sean to argue without having stats in front of him.


He framed it specifically as "gun deaths per state".

Problem is it's the blue cities in the red states, but those blue cities make up much more of the population in those red states than they do in California, so he gets to hide behind the sheer size of the state and call it gun safety.
Posted by BurlesonCountyAg
Member since Jan 2014
4525 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 12:14 pm to
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Does 'people' include non citizens?


These are the claims Gavin will make in a debate. Will an honest media hold him accountable for it? I don’t think so.
Posted by jamiegla1
Member since Aug 2016
7881 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 12:14 pm to
quote:

Gavin was smart and framed it as per capita or ratio or something like that. It made it impossible for Sean to argue without having stats in front of him.

It was not impossible at all. I just dont think Shawn is the sharpest guy
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
41318 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 12:16 pm to
quote:

Gavin was smart and framed it as per capita or ratio or something like that. It made it impossible for Sean to argue without having stats in front of him.


Gavin made some good points.......said Mike Johnson's district has a murder rate 6X higher than Nancy Pelosi's which includes all of downtown S.F.

I will give Gavin credit for showing up and doing a 4 hour free form interview and not backing down.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
15788 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 12:16 pm to
The guy is smoother than baby oil on a grease slick

He’s out there cursing and sounding tough.

He’s a political animal. He will do and say whatever is needed to get elected
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
41755 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 12:17 pm to
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Gavin made some good points.......said Mike Johnson's district has a murder rate 6X higher than Nancy Pelosi's which includes all of downtown S.F.


So what makes those districts different?

Is he suggesting that it’s like for like?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39337 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 12:18 pm to
A lot of people will far for Gavin's BS, especially when guys like sean ryan help make him seem credible.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
27906 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 12:18 pm to
The weirdo hand movements are off-putting. And, you know, the fact that he's a lying commie piece of shite.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39337 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 12:19 pm to
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These are the claims Gavin will make in a debate. Will an honest media hold him accountable for it? I don’t think so.


I would hope a guy like JDV could easily dismantle each and every point made by Gavin in a debate, but would the moderator allow it?
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