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Rep. Chip Roy argues with Vance, Stephen Miller on megabill 'This is not about the border'

Posted on 7/2/25 at 5:43 pm
Posted by RelicBatches86
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Posted on 7/2/25 at 5:43 pm
‘Don’t you dare’: GOP’s Roy dismisses White House argument on megabill

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Vice President Vance and White House deputy chief of staff for policy Stephen Miller are centering their public closing arguments for the “big, beautiful bill” on immigration enforcement — prompting sharp pushback from one GOP holdout.

“Don’t you dare come to me and say this is about border,” said Rep. Chip Roy (R-Texas), who is highly critical of the Senate’s changes to the bill and who serves as a barometer for other deficit hawks in the House GOP.

“This is a how-many-trillion-dollar bill, with how much in terms of debt and how many issues at play? You want to come back and tell me it’s about $150 billion border funding?” Roy told me.

Roy’s pushback came as Vance urged Republicans to brush aside concerns about deficits and Medicaid reforms in order to fuel President Trump’s mass deportation agenda with the billions for Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), border agents, a border wall and other immigration enforcement priorities.

“Everything else—the CBO [Congressional Budget Office] score, the proper baseline, the minutiae of the Medicaid policy—is immaterial compared to the ICE money and immigration enforcement provisions,” Vance posted on social platform X late Monday night.

Miller went on Sean Hannity’s Fox News show Monday night to stress the conservative wins in Trump’s tax cut and spending priorities bill.

“This is the most far-reaching border security proposal, Homeland Security proposal in my lifetime. Sean, not just my lifetime, going back to Eisenhower, going back to since we’ve had about the border,” Miller said.

And in an apparent response to House GOP complaints that the Senate parliamentarian stripped out a provision punishing states that give Medicaid benefits to immigrants who entered the country illegally, Miller posted Tuesday on X: “The best way to keep illegal aliens from getting free healthcare is to deport them.”

White House spokesperson Abigail Jackson underscored the immigration messaging in a statement.

“President Trump’s One, Big, Beautiful bill slashes deficits and debt and unleashes economic growth while delivering on another one of the President’s key promises: deport criminal illegal aliens and permanently secure the border,” Jackson said. “While the President has already been extraordinarily successful on these two fronts, the One Big Beautiful Bill is critical to fortify his success and make the progress permanent.”

The public focus on the border and immigration arguments frustrated Roy, who pointed back to the one-or-two debate in January, when Republicans were debating whether to pursue one or two bills to enact Trump’s top legislative priorities through the budget reconciliation process — which allows them to bypass the 60-vote threshold and the need for Democratic votes in the Senate but that can only be used once per fiscal year.


The House Freedom Caucus had pitched a two-step strategy in January, quickly delivering a boost for Trump’s immigration enforcement agenda while addressing the tax cut extension later.

“I would direct them to the memo that we in the Freedom Caucus and conservatives put out,” Roy said. “Here’s the two-bill strategy. We will deliver you a debt ceiling increase. We will deliver you border funding. We will deliver you defense funding, and we want some modest, you know, upfront spending restraint to go along with that. And then let’s go debate tax and spend. And a different choice was made. And so here we are.”

Republicans, at the direction of Trump, ultimately went for the “one big, beautiful bill,” as Trump put it — eventually adopting the moniker as the official title of the legislation.

Trump addressed the multi- versus single-bill debate Tuesday: “Smaller bills would have been easy, but they wouldn’t have been as good.”

Putting all the bill sweeteners together is also useful for GOP leaders trying to push holdouts to support the bill and drag the legislation across the finish line — by making the exact kind of arguments that Vance and Miller are making.

Moderate Rep. Don Bacon (R-Neb.), who has expressed concerns about the bill’s Medicaid provisions and rollback of clean energy tax credits, acknowledged as much when I asked him about the arguments about putting concerns aside to advance the border security measures.

“I do think making the tax rates permanent, great plus ups in defense spending and added border security are huge assets to this bill,” Bacon said.

But are they big enough assets to overcome concerns from opposite ends of the ideological spectrum? The holdouts — who have long supported the major Trump agenda items in the bill — do not seem to be swayed by those arguments just yet.

William Martin, communications director to Vance, said in a statement that the vice president “worked tirelessly with Republican leadership and key White House officials to get the One Big Beautiful Bill through the Senate.”

“It was a demonstration to everyone in this party that the entire White House is steadfastly committed to getting this legislation through Congress and on President Trump’s desk before the week is over,” Martin said.

House Republicans are facing an incredibly difficult self-imposed July 4 deadline for final passage after the Senate approv
Posted by RelicBatches86
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Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 7/2/25 at 5:46 pm to
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And in an apparent response to House GOP complaints that the Senate parliamentarian stripped out a provision punishing states that give Medicaid benefits to immigrants who entered the country illegally, Miller posted Tuesday on X: “The best way to keep illegal aliens from getting free healthcare is to deport them.”


That sounds like the Senate stripped out the Medicaid provisions.
Posted by finchmeister08
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Posted on 7/2/25 at 5:46 pm to
“Now that’s a giant wall of text.”

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Posted by VOR
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Posted on 7/2/25 at 5:49 pm to
More nonsense
Posted by duckblind56
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Posted on 7/2/25 at 6:41 pm to
Damn. Cliffs please.
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 7/2/25 at 6:53 pm to
The nonsense that occurred during Biden’s admin with his autopen largely is to blame here
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
69179 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 6:57 pm to
quote:

The House Freedom Caucus had pitched a two-step strategy in January, quickly delivering a boost for Trump’s immigration enforcement agenda while addressing the tax cut extension later.

“I would direct them to the memo that we in the Freedom Caucus and conservatives put out,” Roy said. “Here’s the two-bill strategy. We will deliver you a debt ceiling increase. We will deliver you border funding. We will deliver you defense funding, and we want some modest, you know, upfront spending restraint to go along with that. And then let’s go debate tax and spend


The freedom caucus will give us our tax cuts after we fund all the spending that's in the bill too? What does this do for him exactly?
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 7/2/25 at 7:39 pm to
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More nonsense


like you loser?

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Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
10470 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 10:51 pm to
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The freedom caucus will give us our tax cuts after we fund all the spending that's in the bill too? What does this do for him exactly?


They basically told Trump, "Let's do it in 2 bills, but we're not going to give you what you want." It doesn't take a genius to figure out why Trump decided on 1 bill, especially since reconciliation can only be done once.

Roy tried to give himself leverage over Trump, and it failed. Now he's complaining because he lost.

There will be another budget bill soon. If these people don't alienate the rest of the party, maybe they can get a win. Talking is what gets them airtime and donations, so we'll see.
Posted by Chancellor
BHam
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Posted on 7/2/25 at 10:52 pm to
Chip Roy is right.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 7/2/25 at 10:58 pm to
quote:

“Smaller bills would have been easy, but they wouldn’t have been as good.”

Well, thank goodness we are now here with this great bill!
Posted by NashvilleTider
Your Mom
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 7/2/25 at 10:59 pm to
Chip Roy is a **** that gets zero done. Chip Roy won’t pay the extra 6k in taxes you will owe because he’s a fig
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
26358 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 11:02 pm to
Chip Roy is wrong.

He sees deficit and deficit only. Hes not seeing all the other stuff. Two wrongs here.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
39554 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 11:08 pm to
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'This is not about the border'

He got that right, it's about a handful of grandstanding attention whores who try and subvert every piece of critical legislation that comes through the House, just to seek campaign donations to carry on with their warped agendas
Posted by SDVTiger
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Member since Nov 2011
94306 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 11:11 pm to


How much are they claiming will be added to tbe deficit

3tril in 10yrs?
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