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So Ironman started in Wakanda?

Posted on 6/26/25 at 9:25 pm
Posted by loogaroo
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Posted on 6/26/25 at 9:25 pm
I’ll hang up and listen now.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 6/26/25 at 9:26 pm to
No
Posted by DJ3K
Member since Dec 2011
7396 posts
Posted on 6/26/25 at 9:36 pm to
Yup same universe as the white guy becoming the 1st black panther
Posted by Veritas
Member since Feb 2005
10250 posts
Posted on 6/26/25 at 9:47 pm to
I don’t know what the context is that started this thread, but the whole multiverse fricked everything up for marvel.

It allows them to just make up whatever the frick they want.
Posted by Crimson K
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Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 6/26/25 at 10:09 pm to
So are you saying that Wakandmans were holding him captive when he built the suit, or Tony is a long lost Wakandan?
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
23006 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 12:13 am to
I'd say that if you really examine things, Marvel ended up making Wakanda look bad.

Seriously, deep dive here: you have apparently by FAR the most advanced civilization on Earth. Capable of energy weapons, energy-dampening tech that minimizes opposing weapons, shield generators, advanced aircraft that may be spaceworthy, etc.
Great.

Now, add in the fact that Marvel has displayed multiple alien civilizations that would be a threat to Earth. Thanos did attack Earth twice (and Wakanda directly), then attacked again from an alternate timeline. You have the Cree, you have others, including Ravagers abducting humans.
You had Asgardians meddling multiple times, at which the entire planet was at risk.

So does this super civilization defend it's home planet from these threats? Show some leadership? Nope, they hide behind their shields until they are found.
Isolation is fine, the US practiced that in reality a lot. But when the threat is existential, you have to step up. Marvel can't do that, because then it's Planet Wakanda, and they lose (95% of) their audience. But that's how the story has been written, so that's what they should be doing.

Rant over
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
22140 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 4:09 am to
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you have apparently by FAR the most advanced civilization on Earth.
quote:

Wakanda

we wuz kangz
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
43080 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 5:16 am to
Hidden ethno states with super advanced technology are a good thing - for some.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 5:28 am to
It's almost like comics were just a bunch of fun stories written to entertain and trying to tie all of them together and make it fit a cohesive story leaves logical gaps.

Trying to fill in all those gaps is how you get the Multiverse. Id rather just have the logical gaps and not try to tie everything together perfectly.
This post was edited on 6/27/25 at 5:35 am
Posted by The Cow Goes Moo Moo
Bucktown
Member since Nov 2012
4092 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 7:06 am to
quote:

Tony is a long lost Wakandan


Tony is the legendary Albino Wakandan
Posted by JinFL
Duuuval
Member since Oct 2004
4353 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 7:07 am to
Is there any link to this or you just have some sort of whishful thinking?

Probably glanced over the Ironheart crap?
Posted by Draco Malfoy
Member since Mar 2024
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Posted on 6/27/25 at 7:08 am to
Context OP?
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 6/27/25 at 9:36 am to
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
25766 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 11:57 am to
quote:

Hidden ethno states with super advanced technology are a good thing - for some.



All I'm saying is that a homogeneous society with stringent immigration policies can be a utopia.
Posted by nealnan8
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
4026 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 6:53 pm to
Yes, he did. But his assistant was named Peppa, not Pepper.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
17718 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 7:13 pm to
The original Iron Man comic had Tony Stark being captured and building his first suit in Vietnam during the Vietnam War.
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
25605 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 8:20 pm to
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or Tony is a long lost Wakandan?


Posted by DJ3K
Member since Dec 2011
7396 posts
Posted on 6/27/25 at 8:22 pm to
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The original Iron Man comic had Tony Stark being captured and building his first suit in Vietnam during the Vietnam War.
damn you Shang-Chi

Also probably explains why Doom is after the inter universe hopping 10 rings the Shang-Chi has
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