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How is Florida so good at producing Ice Hockey championships and Canada is so putrid
Posted on 6/17/25 at 10:00 pm
Posted on 6/17/25 at 10:00 pm
Florida-based Stanley Cup Winners:
-Tampa Bay Lightning - 2004, 2020, 2021
-Florida Panthers - 2024, 2025
Last Canadian Champ:
- 1993 Montreal Canadiens
Make it make sense...
-Tampa Bay Lightning - 2004, 2020, 2021
-Florida Panthers - 2024, 2025
Last Canadian Champ:
- 1993 Montreal Canadiens
Make it make sense...
This post was edited on 6/17/25 at 10:01 pm
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Posted on 6/17/25 at 10:01 pm to Jack Ruby
It’s a terrible day for Canada, therefore the world
Posted on 6/17/25 at 10:02 pm to Jack Ruby
Well income taxes might have something to do with it,,and the salaries thrusly affected
but that would be it
Canada produces more hockey players than Florida does
but that would be it
Canada produces more hockey players than Florida does
Posted on 6/17/25 at 10:04 pm to ImJustaBoy
No sales tax in Florida makes it easier to sign and retain free agents . Florida’s higher level of freedom (or perceived) in the wake of Covid probably helped as well
The panthers were a poverty franchise for years and only recently turned it around
Canadian Teams the current political paradigm and in the salary cap era will be at an inherent disadvantage
The panthers were a poverty franchise for years and only recently turned it around
Canadian Teams the current political paradigm and in the salary cap era will be at an inherent disadvantage
Posted on 6/17/25 at 10:08 pm to SkiUtah420
Why is Massachusetts so good at football and Georgia sucks?
Posted on 6/17/25 at 10:12 pm to Jack Ruby
No income tax in Florida means those teams have an effectively higher salary cap. Like 10% higher than some other teams, maybe even more with canadians who get raped by taxes
That doesnt hurt.
That doesnt hurt.
This post was edited on 6/17/25 at 10:13 pm
Posted on 6/17/25 at 10:12 pm to OWLFAN86
quote:
Well income taxes might have something to do with it,,and the salaries thrusly affected
Correct. Teams do not get tax breaks in Canada. Montreal has to surrender half their profits to taxes. I’d have to imagine Toronto and Ottawa part with at least 40%.
Florida and Tampa also have the weather factor. Who wants ti play in Edmonton, Calgary or Vancouver in January?
Posted on 6/17/25 at 10:17 pm to Jack Ruby
Taxes
Florida, Tennessee, Texas, Nevada, Washington, FTW
Mississippi, welcome to the no state tax club!
Florida, Tennessee, Texas, Nevada, Washington, FTW
Mississippi, welcome to the no state tax club!
Posted on 6/17/25 at 10:21 pm to Jack Ruby
For the Panthers the answer is Zito. Masterful acquisitions. Maurice can get the most out of a skilled roster which is why he came here.
This post was edited on 6/17/25 at 10:57 pm
Posted on 6/17/25 at 10:55 pm to Jack Ruby
Canadians live on the mythos of "Canadians."
If you've ever worked with them... they are often terrible people. Completely arrogant in anything that is "Canadian."
Honestly, some of the rudest, most insufferable people out there. Any Canadian company is a terrible partner compared to American companies. The worst.
/rant over
If you've ever worked with them... they are often terrible people. Completely arrogant in anything that is "Canadian."
Honestly, some of the rudest, most insufferable people out there. Any Canadian company is a terrible partner compared to American companies. The worst.
/rant over
Posted on 6/17/25 at 11:05 pm to OWLFAN86
quote:
Well income taxes might have something to do with it,,and the salaries thrusly affected
Then Texas should have a bunch of Stanley cups too. In baseball the Dodgers and Yankees who are in high tax states are dominating right now. Like any professional sport, you have to have a combination of things including an owner willing to spend and a great GM and scouts who know who to spend money on.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 11:12 pm to Zappas Stache
The question was Florida versus Canada, and the comparative NHL success as of late
Posted on 6/17/25 at 11:16 pm to Jack Ruby
quote:
Last Canadian Champ:
- 1993 Montreal Canadiens
That whole country is on its way to a NY Rangers epic drought before Messier.
Canada started the slow NHL fade after Gretzky and Messier left that northern territory.
This post was edited on 6/17/25 at 11:17 pm
Posted on 6/17/25 at 11:23 pm to UnclePat76
Tampa and Florida were not powerhouses until recently, so the tax argument isn't strong. They guys who play in the NHL care more about the game than pros in other sports. You saw it firsthand in the 4 Nations Faceoff. USA vs. Canada was played like a game that mattered outside of winning a trophy.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 11:53 pm to Jack Ruby
I doubt any of those players are from Florida.
It is a pro sport. I doubt NYC has produced more MLB players than Georgia or Florida but NYC team has more championships
It is a pro sport. I doubt NYC has produced more MLB players than Georgia or Florida but NYC team has more championships
Posted on 6/17/25 at 11:55 pm to Zappas Stache
quote:Baseball has no salary cap and NY and LA are the 2 biggest markets in the country, so their teams have a lot more ability to outspend everyone else. Then add in all the deferred salary nonsense and its even more skewed in favor of NY and LA teams.
In baseball the Dodgers and Yankees who are in high tax states are dominating right now.
Go look at the MLB payrolls. The Yankees, Dodgers, and Mets are the 3 highest payrolls in MLB this year, last year, so far next year, and at least 2 of those were in the top 3 for most years prior.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:03 am to Zappas Stache
quote:
Then Texas should have a bunch of Stanley cups too. In baseball the Dodgers and Yankees who are in high tax states are dominating right now.
Texas has one NHL team, and they won the Stanley Cup.
No salary cap in MLB, so rest of your point irrelevant.
States with income tax are losers, and:
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:15 am to Jack Ruby
Just looked it up. 5 of last 6 Stanley Cup winners are from no tax states.
Kraken in 2026!
Kraken in 2026!
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:20 am to Zappas Stache
quote:
Then Texas should have a bunch of Stanley cups too. In baseball the Dodgers and Yankees who are in high tax states are dominating right now. Like any professional sport, you have to have a combination of things including an owner willing to spend and a great GM and scouts who know who to spend money on.
comparing a sport without a cap to one who does is retarded
Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:52 am to Jack Ruby
quote:
Florida-based Stanley Cup Winners: -Tampa Bay Lightning - 2004, 2020, 2021 -Florida Panthers - 2024, 2025 Last Canadian Champ: - 1993 Montreal Canadiens Make it make sense...
Both are expansion teams, for some perspective,,,
Inaugural Tampa Bay Season
1992-1993
Inaugural Florida Panthers Season 1993-1994
OT: Inagural Las Vegas Golden Knights Season 2017-2018
So Tampa’s first season in the NHL is was the last time a Canadian team (Montreal) won the Cup.
It’s quite pathetic for Canada and I love it.
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