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Ukraine is becoming a terrorist state funded the the west
Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:33 am
Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:33 am
Honestly I think that if Russia chose to use nuclear weapons against Ukraine, at this point they ar justified in doing so
I hate to say it but these state sponsored assassinations and terrorists attacks should be a wake up call to peace loving people.
I hate to say it but these state sponsored assassinations and terrorists attacks should be a wake up call to peace loving people.
This post was edited on 6/1/25 at 11:35 am
Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:36 am to ItTakesAThief
I’m not going to argue on whether or not they’re justified to use nukes. It’s a war, they’re “justified” to do whatever it takes to win in their eyes.
That being said, Ukraine may being ruthless and, to some at least, morally questionable tactics, but it’s not terrorism by the definition of the word. They’re justified to do whatever it takes to win in their eyes too.
That being said, Ukraine may being ruthless and, to some at least, morally questionable tactics, but it’s not terrorism by the definition of the word. They’re justified to do whatever it takes to win in their eyes too.
Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:38 am to ItTakesAThief
In what way are they worse than the Russians? I’m in favor of bringing and end but this seems like an odd take.
Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:39 am to HeadCall
In Japan we said we were justified to use nukes to avoid mass casualties caused by a mass invasion of Japan.
I think Russia has the same calculus now.
I think Russia has the same calculus now.
Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:39 am to ItTakesAThief
Killing generals and attacking airfields isn't terrorism.
Maybe you can argue the civilians killed recently are, but if that's the case Putin and the boys are playing the same terror game.
Maybe you can argue the civilians killed recently are, but if that's the case Putin and the boys are playing the same terror game.
Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:40 am to ItTakesAThief
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In Japan we said we were justified to use nukes to avoid mass casualties caused by a mass invasion of Japan.
I think Russia has the same calculus now.
not even close to the same thing
Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:42 am to GnashRebel
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this seems like an odd take.
Nuclear weapons justified from a peace loving people seems weird to you?
Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:42 am to ItTakesAThief
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I think Russia has the same calculus now
Maybe they do. That’s a pretty serious gamble though. No one really knows how the US or Europe would respond to nukes being used. If Putin used tactical nukes on military formations and facilities he might could get away with it. If he bombs Kiev I think even Trump would feel the need to respond militarily.
Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:43 am to GnashRebel
I believe its because according to the media, Russia has no interest in taking out drone production or missile sights in ukraine. Their sole focus is on orphanges housing dei kids. In fact I dont think they have eliminated one single ukranian soldiers, just the kids and older, retired, disabled individuals.
The OT site is hilarious with the press from kiev papers, funded by usaid, and their reliable reporting.
The OT site is hilarious with the press from kiev papers, funded by usaid, and their reliable reporting.
Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:43 am to LegendInMyMind
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Killing generals and attacking airfields isn't terrorism. Maybe you can argue the civilians killed recently are, but if that's the case Putin and the boys are playing the same terror game.
Correct! I’m laughing my arse off at the meltdowns I’ve read this morning because Russia got punched in the nose. If Ukraine wants to fight who in the hell are we to stop them? For God’s sake this is exactly what 95% of this board has called for and now that Ukraine did it there has been whining and bitching.
Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:45 am to Figgy
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Correct! I’m laughing my arse off at the meltdowns I’ve read this morning because Russia got punched in the nose. If Ukraine wants to fight who in the hell are we to stop them? For God’s sake this is exactly what 95% of this board has called for and now that Ukraine did it there has been whining and bitching.
A lot of this board would legitimately cheer for Russia in a war with their own home country. They’re brainwashed.
And I say that as someone who’s not even an Ukraine supporter. I don’t really give a shite who wins this war. It means nothing to me.
Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:46 am to Figgy
Ukraine can fight all they want. Ukraine should stop asking us for money and weapons and we should stop providing.
Ukraine is not a US ally, they are not NATO and we have no interest in defending them.
Ukraine is not a US ally, they are not NATO and we have no interest in defending them.
Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:48 am to HeadCall
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it’s not terrorism by the definition of the word
What’s the definition?
Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:49 am to ItTakesAThief
Going nuclear is a no win situation for anyone.
Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:49 am to ItTakesAThief
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they are not NATO and we have no interest in defending them.
Well I might buy that except for the rare earth elements that they have a shite ton of and that Trump himself recognizes the importance of. Then there’s their grain production that we want to keep out of Russian hands… Keeping Putin in check.. little things like that.
Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:50 am to the808bass
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What’s the definition?
The use of violence or the threat of violence to achieve religious or political ends.
Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:51 am to LegendInMyMind
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Killing generals and attacking airfields isn't terrorism.
Maybe you can argue the civilians killed recently are, but if that's the case Putin and the boys are playing the same terror game.
It's much worse. The Russians have abducted Ukrainian children. Some go to foster families (whatever that means). Some go to "re-education camps" and for many others, their whereabouts are unknown. I shudder to think what's happening to these children.
This post was edited on 6/1/25 at 11:52 am
Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:52 am to Figgy
Europe wants the grain to stop buying US.
Europe will end up with the rare earths. Trumps rare earth deal is essentially meaningless because it is not binding. Ukraine decides what they want to give the us if anything. It’s purely symbolic.
Europe will end up with the rare earths. Trumps rare earth deal is essentially meaningless because it is not binding. Ukraine decides what they want to give the us if anything. It’s purely symbolic.
Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:54 am to ItTakesAThief
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Ukraine can fight all they want. Ukraine should stop asking us for money and weapons and we should stop providing.
Ukraine is not a US ally, they are not NATO and we have no interest in defending them.
The President of the United States disagrees with you. He's still sending military aid and providing intelligence.
This post was edited on 6/1/25 at 11:55 am
Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:55 am to HeadCall
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The use of violence or the threat of violence to achieve religious or political ends.
Your definition is arse.
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