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U.S. Court of Appeals of Fed Circuit grants pause over trade court ruling: Tariffs Remain
Posted on 5/29/25 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 5/29/25 at 3:40 pm
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Posted on 5/29/25 at 3:44 pm to cajunangelle
Posted on 5/29/25 at 3:46 pm to cajunangelle
Federal courts will light off the next civil war, like they did the last one, but this time they will lose.
Posted on 5/29/25 at 3:46 pm to cajunangelle
Posted on 5/29/25 at 3:47 pm to cajunangelle
No kidding
There zero standing for anyone but the president to do this.
There zero standing for anyone but the president to do this.
Posted on 5/29/25 at 3:52 pm to hogcard1964
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There zero standing for anyone but the president to do this.
The President does not have the Constitutional Authority to enact tariffs, Congress does.
Congress can cede that right to the President.
Trump claims the IEEPA gives him that authority, so its a question of whether that is true or not.
Miller did a really good job coming up with that novel theory, but its far from a settled fact.
Posted on 5/29/25 at 3:57 pm to cajunangelle
Our legal scholars will be very sad to hear about this.
Posted on 5/29/25 at 3:58 pm to cajunangelle
Lol @ Seldom Seen
Posted on 5/29/25 at 4:00 pm to Fun Bunch
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The Constitution grants Congress the power to regulate foreign commerce, impose tariffs, and collect revenue. As discussed in this report, Congress has long enacted laws authorizing the President to adjust tariff rates on goods in certain circumstances. Courts have generally upheld these laws against constitutional challenges, holding that they do not impermissibly delegate Congress's legislative power over tariffs to the executive branch.
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Several statutes that may authorize the President or an executive agency to impose tariffs under various circumstances are currently in effect. This report includes a legal overview of six such statutes: Section 232 of the Trade Expansion Act of 1962; Sections 122, 201, and 301 of the Trade Act of 1974; Section 338 of the Tariff Act of 1930; and the International Emergency Economic Powers Act of 1977.
Link to Report Prepared by the Congressional Legal Office
Posted on 5/29/25 at 4:22 pm to Fun Bunch
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The President does not have the Constitutional Authority to enact tariffs, Congress does.
Yes he does. Congress signed that over.
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there are six statutory provisions currently in place that control how the president and the executive branch can use tariffs. Three provisions require federal agency investigations before a tariff can be imposed. The other provisions do not require an investigation before actions are taken.
Trump is executing what congress has passed
Posted on 5/29/25 at 4:23 pm to Riverside
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Courts have generally upheld these laws against constitutional challenges
All the way back to John Marshall!
Posted on 5/29/25 at 4:35 pm to Fun Bunch
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Trump claims the IEEPA gives him that authority, so its a question of whether that is true or not.
Miller did a really good job coming up with that novel theory, but its far from a settled fact.
I think mostly because Miller is in ol Don's ear constantly about the illegals being an "emergency" is why they went this route.
Ultimately, this is the Executive shooting themselves in the foot for messaging's sake, rather than just making the tariff powers argument under a more normal commerce law, as those mentioned by others above.
Posted on 5/29/25 at 4:52 pm to hogcard1964
Yep.
Posted on 5/29/25 at 4:52 pm to Riverside
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Our legal scholars will be very sad to hear about this.
Not sad about it. I said I trusted Trump over the policy of the tariffs. I expected a stay of enforcement during appeal...BUT, I am hear to eat crow, because I didn't think the stay would apply to the 10% across the board tariffs.
It's still hard to see how the 10% tariffs can be justified under IEEPA.
Posted on 5/29/25 at 5:10 pm to cajunangelle
This is just one more latest stunt.
But wait -- How and why are the President and his AG and DoJ getting out-maneuvered and dunked on EVERY TIME? At EVERY turn? Something is very fricky.
How much more evidence do we need to conclude that everything is just one giant theatrical charade and staged farce?
Everyday there's a brand new twist in an obvious plot to sabotage and undermine MAGA and hope with ease. ALL of the "heroes" seem to swing and miss; ALL the obstructionist villains seem to strut out to the batters box cold, hitting nothing but dingers.
What are we seeing here at every turn? CHAOS. And confusion. Wait a minute; Could we be seeing a psyop, Operation: Chaos??
But wait -- How and why are the President and his AG and DoJ getting out-maneuvered and dunked on EVERY TIME? At EVERY turn? Something is very fricky.
How much more evidence do we need to conclude that everything is just one giant theatrical charade and staged farce?
Everyday there's a brand new twist in an obvious plot to sabotage and undermine MAGA and hope with ease. ALL of the "heroes" seem to swing and miss; ALL the obstructionist villains seem to strut out to the batters box cold, hitting nothing but dingers.
What are we seeing here at every turn? CHAOS. And confusion. Wait a minute; Could we be seeing a psyop, Operation: Chaos??
Posted on 5/29/25 at 6:10 pm to cajunangelle
Teflon Don. Man knows how to win.
Posted on 5/29/25 at 6:33 pm to cajunangelle
If the dim-marxists just wanted to grumble on the sideline it would be one thing.
To the rest of the world it would appear we speak with one voice. But using the courts to stymie Trump is about one thing only. And it should be obvious to everyone. These sorry scumbags are trying to destroy our country, burn it down, to regain power.
I have no doubt Hamas would be finished, the Ukraine grift war, tariff trade war and immigration would be well on their way to being solved. If the enemies within were content to stand on the sideline, where the voters sent them.
If the evil dim-marxists successfully derail Trumps efforts and bring about widespread suffering, the dim-tards need to be relegated to the dust bin of history by any means necessary!
To the rest of the world it would appear we speak with one voice. But using the courts to stymie Trump is about one thing only. And it should be obvious to everyone. These sorry scumbags are trying to destroy our country, burn it down, to regain power.
I have no doubt Hamas would be finished, the Ukraine grift war, tariff trade war and immigration would be well on their way to being solved. If the enemies within were content to stand on the sideline, where the voters sent them.
If the evil dim-marxists successfully derail Trumps efforts and bring about widespread suffering, the dim-tards need to be relegated to the dust bin of history by any means necessary!
Posted on 5/29/25 at 6:37 pm to cajunangelle
Posted on 5/29/25 at 6:40 pm to EphesianArmor
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This is just one more latest stunt.
But wait -- How and why are the President and his AG and DoJ getting out-maneuvered and dunked on EVERY TIME? At EVERY turn? Something is very fricky.
You stupid frick - they have not been "outmaneuvered and dunked on" here.
Posted on 5/29/25 at 6:52 pm to cajunangelle
Y'all are aware that this on again, off again, tweet-a-tariff-a-day business makes it difficult/impossible for American businesses to plan ahead, right?
Secure the border, great. DOGE, AWESOME! But if the American economy is forced to turn on a dime every day or week, that only creates instability.
But most of you don't want to hear that so downvote away.
Secure the border, great. DOGE, AWESOME! But if the American economy is forced to turn on a dime every day or week, that only creates instability.
But most of you don't want to hear that so downvote away.
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