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How big can an arrowhead be? Asking because these are pretty big.
Posted on 5/24/25 at 10:08 am
Posted on 5/24/25 at 10:08 am
I assume the rounded is for a hatchet or something? It appears to be broken.
Found at my land yesterday

Found at my land yesterday

Posted on 5/24/25 at 10:15 am to bbvdd
Looks like prototype landsharks. Wooly mammoths were challenging.
Posted on 5/24/25 at 10:22 am to rattlebucket
Really didn’t know how big or small a spear would be.
The center one is exactly 3”.
Also in this area, I’ve found hundreds of rock chips where they were making them.
The center one is exactly 3”.
Also in this area, I’ve found hundreds of rock chips where they were making them.
This post was edited on 5/24/25 at 10:24 am
Posted on 5/24/25 at 11:16 am to bbvdd
We were always told ones the size of your center head is a spear tip. We have found ones like you have on the right with a sharp edge and a large rounded edge and were told those were used for hide scrapers
My parents own a large tract of land in NE Mississippi with several live spring and two year round creeks. There are tons of heads on it and the Miss St. has even came relic hunting there and that’s who told us about the hide scraper
My parents own a large tract of land in NE Mississippi with several live spring and two year round creeks. There are tons of heads on it and the Miss St. has even came relic hunting there and that’s who told us about the hide scraper
Posted on 5/24/25 at 11:26 am to bbvdd
I've found one that was similar to the middle one south of Selma, AL. It's damn near "perfect" for a spear head. I'll have to find it in my dad's stuff somewhere
Posted on 5/24/25 at 12:02 pm to bbvdd
In the artifact community the two on the left would be considered knives and the one on the right would be a scraper.
Spear(dart) points would be narrower.
They're somewhere between 5000 to 8000 years old. Late to middle archaic period.
I believe the 2 on the left would be typed Kirks
Spear(dart) points would be narrower.
They're somewhere between 5000 to 8000 years old. Late to middle archaic period.
I believe the 2 on the left would be typed Kirks
Posted on 5/24/25 at 12:21 pm to bbvdd
Most likely atlatl points. Could be spear point. Very nice finds.
This post was edited on 5/24/25 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 5/24/25 at 12:27 pm to chrome1007
I will add that these were found in very northern MS. Central to eastern side.
Chickasaw territory. There was apparently a camp on my land from all the pieces I’ve found. There was a creek that probably ran a couple hundred yards from this spot.
I say probably because the creek was straightened in the 50s and I’m not sure where the creek bed was.
Chickasaw territory. There was apparently a camp on my land from all the pieces I’ve found. There was a creek that probably ran a couple hundred yards from this spot.
I say probably because the creek was straightened in the 50s and I’m not sure where the creek bed was.
This post was edited on 5/24/25 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 5/24/25 at 1:18 pm to bbvdd
Left two are spear/atlatl points and the one on the right is a hide scraper.
The points are on the upper end of size range for Southern materials (chert)... much larger points are possible but typically require higher grade flints found in Missouri, TX etc.
These would be considered "field grade" points. Nice finds
The points are on the upper end of size range for Southern materials (chert)... much larger points are possible but typically require higher grade flints found in Missouri, TX etc.
These would be considered "field grade" points. Nice finds
Posted on 5/24/25 at 1:54 pm to bbvdd
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assume the rounded is for a hatchet or something? It appears to be broken
That center one is in great shape, I haven’t found one in 30-40yrs. But I can remember thinking how cool it was to be standing in the excactly same spot where someone had shot at something hundred of years before me.
Must have been some kind of frustration spending all that time to knap tbat head make those arrows and and strip and glue the feathers to only miss because your batteries were dead in your rangefinder!!!
Posted on 5/24/25 at 2:28 pm to Ol boy
I break with anthropological doctrine and think people have been in North America much longer than what the "scientific consensus" is. In my anthropology classes at UGA (I minored in it), they were saying 10-12,000 years. I called bullshite. Now they are saying maybe 20+ thousand years. I think it's closer to 100,000 than 10,000.
I'm not saying they had extremely advanced civilizations with spaceships and shite, but I do think humans have been on this continent much longer than 10 to 12,000 years. In the 90's, to say that out loud in front of an anthropologist would get you chastised and shamed.
I'm not saying they had extremely advanced civilizations with spaceships and shite, but I do think humans have been on this continent much longer than 10 to 12,000 years. In the 90's, to say that out loud in front of an anthropologist would get you chastised and shamed.
Posted on 5/24/25 at 5:59 pm to bbvdd
Far right could be a scraper or it could be a blank, or even a chip off the old block from the process of flintknapping. Hard to tell without more pics from all sides. One thing that will help you recognize different types of points is watching guys on YT flintknap various types of points and tools.
I have points that are the size of your thumbnail to ones as long and wide as a coke can, ones that are fluted, fire tempered, crudely made tools and poorly made points from later, less skilled flintknappers from the Choctaw tribe (they weren't as skilled because they didn't have to be as they grew corn better than they hunted and gathered but were great at making marbles and other ceremonial pieces) and everything in between.
My best recommendation is to not get into the hobby because you will piss away TONS of time
I have points that are the size of your thumbnail to ones as long and wide as a coke can, ones that are fluted, fire tempered, crudely made tools and poorly made points from later, less skilled flintknappers from the Choctaw tribe (they weren't as skilled because they didn't have to be as they grew corn better than they hunted and gathered but were great at making marbles and other ceremonial pieces) and everything in between.
My best recommendation is to not get into the hobby because you will piss away TONS of time

Posted on 5/24/25 at 6:05 pm to deeprig9
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but I do think humans have been on this continent much longer than 10 to 12,000 years.
I mean, white sands has proven that.
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The latest research shows that humans have been living in North America and Tularosa Basin for at least 23,000 years. It was previously thought that humans arrived in North America closer to 13,500 – 16,000 years ago.
OP. Nice finds! Makes me want to go up to our property to find some. Probably found close to 100 in my life.
Posted on 5/24/25 at 8:03 pm to mudshuvl05
Also consider the facts that people would rework a point down to small size, if it chipped or broke, they'd rework it down to something smaller. And they also picked up old points walking around like we do today, and they'd rework and reuse those too.And be found in the same strata and piles where more "modern" points are found, and it confuses their scientific conclusions. Here's a 25000 year old point but it was found in an excavation of a 1000 year old site.
Anthropologists are just scratching the surface, literally.
Anthropologists are just scratching the surface, literally.
Posted on 5/24/25 at 9:16 pm to bbvdd
Be interesting to LIDAR your property. The camp, creek and and any mounds would show up.
Posted on 5/25/25 at 9:58 am to deeprig9
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I break with anthropological doctrine and think people have been in North America much longer than what the "scientific consensus" is. In my anthropology classes at UGA (I minored in it), they were saying 10-12,000 years. I called bullshite. Now they are saying maybe 20+ thousand years. I think it's closer to 100,000 than 10,000.
I’ve read that there is a site in South Carolina where some mammoth bones appear to show signs of human scraping, dating to 50,000 years ago. Of course, that theory has been criticized by the establishment, but I’d say the White Sands footprints lends credence to the idea that people have been here for far longer than what the establishment believes. 100,000 years seems perfectly reasonable to me. Why not?
“But there’s no evidence to support that date!” they say. Yeah, no shite. Do you know how far down in the dirt that kind of evidence would be? Archeologists don’t even think to dig that far down because they don’t think there is a reason to. Who knows what’s down that deep, and where to even start looking for it.
Posted on 5/25/25 at 10:10 am to bbvdd
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Really didn’t know how big or small a spear would be.
The center one is exactly 3”.
Also in this area, I’ve found hundreds of rock chips where they were making them.
A smaller projectile between spear and arrow would be from an Atlatl. A short stick held in the hand used to throw a short spear (longer than the hand held one) kinda like a sling.
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