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Abundance Mindset vs. Poverty Mindset

Posted on 5/19/25 at 8:07 am
Posted by BayouBengal23
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Posted on 5/19/25 at 8:07 am
I’ve realized I’ve always had a poverty mindset—always pinching pennies, scared to spend, and feeling like there’s never enough. It’s exhausting mentally. We live paycheck to paycheck already and can’t fathom spending freely or we’ll run out every month.

I saw a video yesterday about the abundance mindset—where you trust that money flows back when you invest in things you enjoy or believe in. This guy swears by it. Says more opportunities show itself and the money always seems to replenish itself.

Where do you find yourself between these two mindsets. Should I loosen up and risk running out of money before the end of each month? (I have side hustles but still always seems to run out)
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
80411 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 8:09 am to
The OT lets poors in now?
Posted by When in Rome
Telegraph Road
Member since Jan 2011
35980 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 8:09 am to
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Should I loosen up and risk running out of money before the end of each month?
no
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452018 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 8:11 am to
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I saw a video yesterday about the abundance mindset


Before I answer, I need to know what kind of water he used for his ice water facial
This post was edited on 5/19/25 at 8:12 am
Posted by facher08
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
5154 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 8:11 am to
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Where do you find yourself between these two mindsets.


Exactly here, between these two mindsets. I don't stress out over penching pennies, but I'm not a materialistic person and I understand the difference between a "need" and a "want".
Posted by forkedintheroad
Member since Feb 2025
404 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 8:11 am to
Those with an abundance mindset will be asking those with a poor mindset for help when the money runs out.
Posted by McDonaldsBagMan
Member since Apr 2025
217 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 8:12 am to
Get a better job, baw.

Do you have a degree?
Posted by YouKnowImRight
Member since Oct 2023
2220 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 8:12 am to
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Abundance Mindset


Leads to

Credit Card Debt
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
24854 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 8:13 am to
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Where do you find yourself between these two mindsets. Should I loosen up and risk running out of money before the end of each month? (I have side hustles but still always seems to run out)


You should save, scrape, work, cut expenses to the point you have money left over at the end of each month. After years of doing this you should have an abundance of money and begin spending it for your enjoyment.
Posted by philly444
stuck in contraflow
Member since Nov 2008
11867 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 8:13 am to
Well what investments do you have? You can’t just start having this mindset when you don’t actually have anything to fall back on if things go south lol
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
11701 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 8:14 am to
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the abundance mindset—where you trust that money flows back when you invest in things you enjoy or believe in. This guy swears by it. Says more opportunities show itself and the money always seems to replenish itself.


Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
11733 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 8:14 am to
If I was living paycheck to paycheck, I don’t think I’d be open to taking a big financial risk
Posted by jaytothen
Member since Jan 2020
7650 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 8:15 am to
Can't take your money with you when you die.

Buy that 85K at 7% F250 baw.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452018 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 8:17 am to
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You should save, scrape, work, cut expenses to the point you have money left over at the end of each month. After years of doing this you should have an abundance of money and begin spending it for your enjoyment.


OK so I will give somewhat of a real answer, using this as a basis.

This isn't objectively bad advice, however, it's completely limiting and directly scaled to his income. If you're telling someone making $25k/year to do this, the end result isn't going to be that great. Will it be better than being in debt? yes, but most people cannot save their way into abundance.

The non-grifter version of the abundance mindset is to invest in things that can increase your baseline. Now, there is risk involved, but there is also potential reward. If you are smart, work hard, and find yourself on the right side of variance, the reward can bring you into abundance.

The grifter version of the abundance mindset is to pay for a course/coaching and then invest in whatever meme is popular that quarter that the influencer has build their course/coaching operation around (real estate, crypto, dropshipping, esty stores, etc.)
Posted by Horsemeat
Truckin' somewhere in the US
Member since Dec 2014
14519 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 8:18 am to
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Should I loosen up and risk running out of money before the end of each month?
Hell no. Having money in savings is always better than living paycheck to paycheck where one calamity bankrupts you. Live frugal until you can afford the occasional splurge. Build your worth.
Posted by TigerBaitOohHaHa
Member since Jan 2023
1215 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 8:23 am to
It sort of sounds like your poverty mind set is appropriate. Perhaps a misuse of the word...

Let me give you a better example. My parents actually have accumulated tremendous wealth, but because they grew up poor in rural towns in the 1940's my dad won't let my mom buy Ziplocs because he took a calculator and determined that the generic saran wrap is 1/10 the cost per square inch..

They invest in Series EE Savings Bonds, unplug appliances so as to save any excess electrical 'draw' during non-use, and turn their AC off at night.

That is poverty mindset.
This post was edited on 5/19/25 at 8:26 am
Posted by Suntiger
STG or BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
34626 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 8:23 am to
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We live paycheck to paycheck already and can’t fathom spending freely or we’ll run out every month.


quote:

I have side hustles but still always seems to run out


If you are doing the above, you probably need to be doing the below.

quote:

always pinching pennies, scared to spend, and feeling like there’s never enough.



quote:

you trust that money flows back when you invest in things you enjoy or believe in. This guy swears by it. Says more opportunities show itself and the money always seems to replenish itself.


Ughhh, that’s now how life works. Money doesn’t just show up except for that $1 bill from the Nielsen Ratings people.

You can strategically spend. Get a masters. Join a group that will develop business contacts, etc. but you shouldn’t spend money on a vacation thinking magic money will appear because you spent money on a vacation.

It is stressful living paycheck to paycheck. You need to prioritize the thing you want to do and spend money on that and cut back on other things. Want to take vacations? Okay, but cancel Netflix. Want to golf or fish? Okay, but cut back on eating out or nice clothing. There’s a balance to everything.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
75107 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 8:24 am to
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Should I loosen up and risk running out of money before the end of each month?
No, that is retarded.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32635 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 8:25 am to
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always pinching pennies, scared to spend, and feeling like there’s never enough.


Nothing wrong with this if this is your comfort zone.....and you aren't afraid to invest your savings into something that can help it grow. Think of every one of your saved dollars as little soldiers working to make more soldiers for your savings army. You should have a solid offense to accompany your excellent defense.

A lot of "poverty mindset" people are incredibly conservative investors, which IMO is not healthy for people under 50 years old. My parents are like this. They are great at keeping their spending down and controlling their costs, but they were always terrible investors. They always put their money in CDs and HYSA's instead of investing in total market. Their savings just didn't grow as much as it should have. They could have probably retired early if their offense was as good as their defense.

Don't spend money just to spend. That's the wrong move here even if you are investing appropriately. Unless you were born into wealth, you need to be putting money away somehow and investing. Hard to do that if you are buying a bunch of consumer garbage you don't really need.
This post was edited on 5/19/25 at 8:30 am
Posted by Suntiger
STG or BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
34626 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 8:35 am to
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My parents actually have accumulated tremendous wealth, but because they grew up poor in rural towns in the 1940's my dad won't let my mom buy Ziplocs because he took a calculator and determined that the generic saran wrap is 1/10 the cost per square inch.


Similar to my dad except he washes and reuses ziplock bags multiple times. I’ll go home to a strainer full of ziplock bags. It takes him two years to go through a box!
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