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Mussolini's fleet vs Brits

Posted on 5/15/25 at 8:05 pm
Posted by Auburn1968
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 8:05 pm
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 8:45 pm to
Fascists got banged and mashed.

Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
101482 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 8:59 pm to
Italy was a joke in WW2. Germans constantly bailed them out


They were more a liability for the Axis powers than an asset
Posted by Juan Betanzos
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2005
4139 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 10:30 pm to
Hitler studied Mussolini vigorously. He stole/ mimicked Mussolini’s fascist system, brown shirts (Mussolini’s black shirts), and even borrowed il duce’s fascist salute —- the “heil Hitler” extended arm
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 10:41 pm to
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even borrowed il duce’s fascist salute —- the “heil Hitler” extended arm



To be fair, Mussolini stole that from the Romans, and many other kingdoms and empires had used similar salutes. It was hardly unique
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 10:45 pm to
The Italians had some really good capital ships. Their problem though was a lack of fuel oil for training and a complete lack of radar.
Posted by StrongOffer
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 10:56 pm to
I need to go to bed. Thought that said Mussolini’s feet vs Brits. I was ready to roll my eyes at how depraved our posters are.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
36247 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 11:02 pm to
quote:

They were more a liability for the Axis powers than an asset

The story of Germany’s allies in both world wars. The Austrians and Ottomans were even worse in WW1
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 11:23 pm to
If you think that was bad let me introduce you to the battle of Mers El Kebir when Britain attacked the French navy in WWII.


Posted by LazloHollyfeld
Steam Tunnel at UNC-G
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 11:25 pm to
The USA used the Bellamy Salute pre-WWII which was basically the same thing
Posted by Ham And Glass
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 11:37 pm to
"Italians had some really good capital ships."
The Italians had some really good mountains.....

Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
35807 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 6:14 am to
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Italy was a joke in WW2.
Having spent a bit of time in modern Italy, I always thought it was weird that they were allegedly a big part of the WW2 opposition. You don't get military juggernaut vibes.
Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
13788 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 7:43 am to
Italy was a joke in WW2. Germans constantly bailed them out
They were more a liability for the Axis powers than an asset

---Thank God for that!
Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
13788 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 7:45 am to
He stole/ mimicked Mussolini’s fascist system, brown shirts (Mussolini’s black shirts), and even borrowed il duce’s fascist salute —- the “heil Hitler” extended arm
---But when Hitler met Mussolini in person, the Fuhrer decided Benito was a big bag of wind.
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
35240 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 7:46 am to
quote:

To be fair, Mussolini stole that from the Romans


Would it be stealing since you know the Romans started in Italy?
Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
13788 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 7:51 am to
when Britain attacked the French navy in WWII.

---one of the most controversial battles of the entire war.
Posted by StanSmith
Member since May 2018
1072 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 8:17 am to
The Italians rebuilt their fleet and put glass bottoms in their ships so their sailors could get a view of the old fleet.
Posted by Toroballistic
Tallahassee
Member since Dec 2017
2196 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 9:07 am to
Reminded me of an old joke: In WWII the US navy ran on whiskey, the Royal Navy run on Rum while the Italian Navy stuck to Port.
Posted by Mstate
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2009
10463 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 9:35 am to
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Having spent a bit of time in modern Italy, I always thought it was weird that they were allegedly a big part of the WW2 opposition. You don't get military juggernaut vibes.


Because they weren’t. Italy was wholly unprepared for WW2. Even Mussolini knew that and figured it would take a few more years to build up their arms and train their soldiers.

But they didn’t get to decide on the timeline and got thrust into a war with a weak military, virtually non existent logistical capabilities and it showed.

Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
33753 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 11:56 am to
quote:

when Britain attacked the French navy in WWII.

---one of the most controversial battles of the entire war.


It's not like the Britts gave them all sorts of options NOT to get fired upon...

Churchill gave the right order.
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