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Car seats as a contraceptive
Posted on 5/12/25 at 12:46 am
Posted on 5/12/25 at 12:46 am
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Posted on 5/12/25 at 12:48 am to hikingfan
Whoever designs those things is a fricking sadistic motherfricker
Posted on 5/12/25 at 1:04 am to hikingfan
Amen.
I have 3 car seats in the back of my ride and I can’t get laid for shite.
I think they also cause poverty. I used to be rich. Now I’m broke as a motherfricker.
I have 3 car seats in the back of my ride and I can’t get laid for shite.
I think they also cause poverty. I used to be rich. Now I’m broke as a motherfricker.
Posted on 5/12/25 at 2:50 am to Slevin7
300-500k/car seat
Posted on 5/12/25 at 3:23 am to hikingfan
Correlation =/= causation.
Posted on 5/12/25 at 6:47 am to Lonnie Utah
The Journal of Law and Economics has an A* rating on the ABDC. They are one of the top journals in the field. They don’t publish correlation only studies.
Posted on 5/12/25 at 8:10 am to Lonnie Utah
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Correlation =/= causation.
While this statement is correct, I think the data scientists are on to something with the car seat as having a role in declining birth rates.
When we had more than two kids, the first thing people asked us was about when we were going to get a bigger car, car seats, etc. Having a vehicle large enough to haul a household of kids and their required safety gear is a significant concern. We had to install a car seat in the grandparents' car for when they visit.
For middle-class and upper-middle class parents, who actually try to plan and provide for their kids, cars and safety equipment are a valid concern.
Posted on 5/12/25 at 8:24 am to RoyalAir
we rode around laying on the back dash or running around untethered in the back of a panel van
Posted on 5/12/25 at 9:01 am to hikingfan
That’s a whole lotta speculation. I have doubts that car seats are the true deciding factor not to have a third child. And 57 lives saved in one year is statistically insignificant I’m sure, but it’s not insignificant to the parents of those 57. This just seems like a case of people looking for something to complain about.
Posted on 5/12/25 at 9:04 am to hikingfan
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Car seats as a contraceptive
Disagree, at least here in Memphis.
I see Queens swerving their clapped out Altima's in and out of traffic every single day with what appears to be 3 under 3 in the backseat, all of them rolling around without even a seatbelt on, let alone a single actual car seat in the car.
It's fricking infuriating they aren't thrown in jail for endangering children with that stupid shite.
This post was edited on 5/12/25 at 9:05 am
Posted on 5/12/25 at 9:06 am to Celery
Alone this is pretty useless, but I do think it's a decent tag line for a broader issue that is discussed in pronatalism circles - which is that overregulation, both government and just societal/peer pressure, is hurting the cause.
IE, making car seats overkill/more difficult (I don't necessarily agree here, but it's a talking point), the idea that you're a monster if you a few houses down with your kid on a monitor, etc.
Basically hitting on the idea that for being a pretty immature, less wholesome society we're somehow overprotective of kids in ways that may not be helpful in the aggregate and has some major blindspots on the things that arguable matter most.
IE, making car seats overkill/more difficult (I don't necessarily agree here, but it's a talking point), the idea that you're a monster if you a few houses down with your kid on a monitor, etc.
Basically hitting on the idea that for being a pretty immature, less wholesome society we're somehow overprotective of kids in ways that may not be helpful in the aggregate and has some major blindspots on the things that arguable matter most.
Posted on 5/12/25 at 9:09 am to funnystuff
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The Journal of Law and Economics has an A* rating on the ABDC. They are one of the top journals in the field. They don’t publish correlation only studies.
Well, I don't care what their rating is. Mandated car seats aren't the cause of of world wide declining birthrates. There are large socio-economic forces at work.
This post was edited on 5/12/25 at 9:18 am
Posted on 5/12/25 at 9:13 am to hikingfan
0.73% is a statistical difference?
Posted on 5/12/25 at 9:14 am to Lonnie Utah
Yes, there are a huge number of socioeconomic factors that contribute to declining birth rates.
No, that fact does not rule out government regulation like car seat requirements as one of those many, many contributing factors. No portion of that paper claimed otherwise.
Because duh.
No, that fact does not rule out government regulation like car seat requirements as one of those many, many contributing factors. No portion of that paper claimed otherwise.
Because duh.
Posted on 5/12/25 at 9:15 am to hikingfan
It's impossible to pick up chicks at the club with car seats in the backseat, so this study is correct.
Posted on 5/12/25 at 9:16 am to funnystuff
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Yes, there are a huge number of socioeconomic factors that contribute to declining birth rates.
No, that fact does not rule out government regulation like car seat requirements as one of those many, many contributing factors. No portion of that paper claimed otherwise.
Because duh.
Car seats were made mandatory in the US in 1985, yet birth rates have be dropping steadily since the 1960's. The study is supposition.
Oh, and...
This post was edited on 5/12/25 at 9:17 am
Posted on 5/12/25 at 9:17 am to Lonnie Utah
The study is basically trying to find any reason other than the sexual revolution, birth control pills, and feminism resulting in a declining birth rate.
Posted on 5/12/25 at 9:19 am to hikingfan
They do make it cramped when trying to get busy in the back seat.
Posted on 5/12/25 at 9:20 am to Oilfieldbiology
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The study is basically trying to find any reason other than the sexual revolution, birth control pills, and feminism resulting in a declining birth rate.
Posted on 5/12/25 at 9:25 am to Cotten
quote:historians called this phenomenon “the 1970’s”
with what appears to be 3 under 3 in the backseat, all of them rolling around without even a seatbelt on, let alone a single actual car seat in the car.
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