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A good perspective on 0.3% GDP growth.....

Posted on 5/1/25 at 8:23 am
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
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Posted on 5/1/25 at 8:23 am
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The absolute key to the first quarter GDP result is to remember that ‘imports‘ are a deduction in the economic equation of Gross Domestic Product. The GDP is the valuation of all goods and services produced in the USA *minus* the value of imports.

The Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA) releases the results of the first quarter GDP. The overall economic growth seems low at –0.3% until you look at how U.S. companies responded in February and March to the tariff announcement.

Companies proactively purchased massive amounts of products in advance of the tariffs leading to an overall increase in imports of 41.3%. Which results in a 5.3% deduction to GDP. Every dollar of those imports is a deduction to the GDP equation, giving the false appearance of lower domestic production.


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Here we can see that imports surged and led to a 5.03% deduction to the GDP equation. Meaning if all things were equal without the Q1 surge in import purchases the GDP would have been +5.0%.

Meanwhile the impact of federal spending decreased 0.33% as President Trump makes the federal government smaller, and federal spending contribution less. The federal government is getting smaller as a percentage of GDP. Again, a very positive sign.

Investment in the USA is high. MAGA working.

Imports are temporarily high, as companies prepare to purchase less from overseas. MAGA working.

Following the increase in U.S. investment and following the increase in equipment purchasing; we will see an increase in jobs as a result of hiring Americans to use the equipment and create the products. If the workforce tightens up (illegal alien deportation continues) and unemployment lessens, then pressure is created on wage rates as companies compete for workers. Main Street starts winning again.

Attach welfare support to employment efforts and the dependency model shrinks.

This is very good news all around.



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Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/1/25 at 8:25 am to
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Imports are temporarily high, as companies prepare to purchase less from overseas. MAGA working.

Following the increase in U.S. investment and following the increase in equipment purchasing; we will see an increase in jobs as a result of hiring Americans to use the equipment and create the products. If the workforce tightens up (illegal alien deportation continues) and unemployment lessens, then pressure is created on wage rates as companies compete for workers. Main Street starts winning again.


And what will the effect of this huge increase of costs due to our economy as a whole?
Posted by FlyDownTheField83
Auburn AL
Member since Dec 2021
1116 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 8:28 am to
Yeah, your $10 shirts will cost $11…..”huge” increase in costs….
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
79740 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 8:28 am to
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And what will the effect of this huge increase of costs due to our economy as a whole?



Litigation is a huge cost for companies and consumers.

Less shitty lawyers would be a good start.


Posted by BuckeyeGoon
Member since Jan 2025
318 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 8:30 am to
The idea is that increased wages would make up for any increased prices.
Posted by RohanGonzales
Member since Apr 2024
5257 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 8:31 am to
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And what will the effect of this huge increase of costs due to our economy as a whole?


Why are you deflecting from the purpose of this thread, which is to explain the GDP number yesterday?

Start another thread.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 5/1/25 at 8:34 am to

Good news for long term thinkers.

Bad news for the instant gratification crowd.
Posted by Tigers0918
Member since Feb 2020
1461 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 8:42 am to
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Yeah, your $10 shirts will cost $11…..”huge” increase in costs….


So you had no problem when inflation was 10%?
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
14422 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 8:45 am to
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Less shitty lawyers would be a good start.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
108207 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 8:46 am to
So, not remotely close to a recession
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
10463 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 8:46 am to
You never miss an opportunity to count up a thread, do you?
Posted by Ebridg3
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Sep 2016
2571 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 8:48 am to
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And what will be the effect of this huge cost increase on our economy as a whole?


Well, I can tell you that in 2020-2021, supply chain issues worsened due to COVID-19. A particular supplier jacked up my prices. We had a mutual agreement on some things, so I canceled everything and went to another supplier, whose prices were even higher. Within six months, they had restored all my price points, even though this was against company policy. It's called negotiation.

Countries can not, not afford to do business with the US. They can posture and politic all they want, but in the end, they will bend the knee. This is no different than men in women's sports and the other liberal driven bs out there. The idea that the US is weak, the way these countries have started talking down to us, all because of globalist, is a joke.

This isn't a prediction. It's a guarantee. Dont poke the bear, and the US is literally the bear.
This post was edited on 5/1/25 at 8:49 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
133471 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 8:51 am to
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Litigation is a huge cost for companies and consumers. Less shitty lawyers would be a good start.


Good point.
Posted by StGeorgeTiger
Member since Sep 2024
412 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 8:54 am to
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Litigation is a huge cost for companies and consumers. Less shitty lawyers would be a good start.


Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
16520 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 9:00 am to
It’s May Day so the commies are downvoting this.

This is a one time thing and trade deals are coming with the countries we want to trade with.

As for China, screw them.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
32342 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 9:26 am to
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Yeah, your $10 shirts will cost $11…..”huge” increase in costs….

Yeah, the average American is worried about the costs of the basics. Food, gasoline, energy/utilities, basic sundries and necessary clothing, etc..

We don't care about refrigerators costing 9% more or the cost of a Louie bag increasing 75%. If you're the person that just has to get the newest overpriced iPhone every time it drops even though your "old" one is still fine, that's on you.
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
1451 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 9:44 am to
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So you had no problem when inflation was 10%?


I don't want to discount the "tariffs will cause inflation" point. I think it is a valid concern. But its best to be honest about it.

The inflation we have seen is the result of fiscal and monetary policy. It is impossible to put the genie back n the bottle. The best you can do is sound policy going forward.

Tariffs, to the extent they cause inflation, can be cured, with respect to inflation, in a variety of ways.

This is a bold move by Trump. If it fails, it has the potential to fail dramatically. Likewise if it works. I am just glad he campaigned on it and presumably got a "mandate" to do what he is doing - unlike so much of the policies we have seen going back decades and decades.
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
18361 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 9:48 am to
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And what will the effect of this huge increase of costs due to our economy as a whole?



It's going to be fine.


Posted by Von
Wichita Falls, TX
Member since Feb 2019
2644 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 9:57 am to
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If you're the person that just has to get the newest overpriced iPhone every time it drops even though your "old" one is still fine, that's on you.

That there. I laughed every time the pundits or clowns here talked about Iphone prices. IDGAF.
I've got a shitload of chinese plastic clothes hangers if you need them. And I'll happily rock my 2 year old $250 BLU GS91 for another 2 years.
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
Member since Sep 2013
15682 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 9:59 am to
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Good news for long term thinkers.


Price increases will be long term. US manufacturers won’t just drop prices if the economy starts doing better.
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