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Predictions on Khalil (former Columbia student) hearing today?
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:19 am
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:19 am
The immigration judge said she would decide today after the 1:00 (CDT) hearing whether or not Mahmoud Khalil can be deported.
She works for the Attorney General. 20 immigration judges were recently fired without explanation.
I predict that she finds Khalil subject to deportation. What do you think? [Not a question of whether or not he SHOULD be deported...there's been plenty of discussion already about that.]
She works for the Attorney General. 20 immigration judges were recently fired without explanation.
I predict that she finds Khalil subject to deportation. What do you think? [Not a question of whether or not he SHOULD be deported...there's been plenty of discussion already about that.]
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:21 am to IvoryBillMatt
I lean the other way. Deporting him on the seemingly sole basis of protesting against Israel seems awful thin, unless the Court is going to find that the SOS has absolute authority to remove people for any reason.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:22 am to IvoryBillMatt
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The immigration judge said she would decide today after the 1:00 (CDT) hearing whether or not Mahmoud Khalil can be deported.
She works for the Attorney General. 20 immigration judges were recently fired without explanation.
I predict that she finds Khalil subject to deportation. What do you think? [Not a question of whether or not he SHOULD be deported...there's been plenty of discussion already about that.]
I'm waiting to find out myself.
Based solely on her response to all this right now. I get the impression she's going to rule against deportation.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:22 am to IvoryBillMatt
There should be no court involved at all. The law is clear that the State Department can pull visas at their discretion.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:23 am to Indefatigable
Isn’t their something about illegal undesirables that pisses you off enough to take a stand against them ?
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:23 am to AUstar
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There should be no court involved at all. The law is clear that the State Department can pull visas at their discretion.
He's not here on a visa.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:24 am to Indefatigable
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unless the Court is going to find that the SOS has absolute authority to remove people for any reason.
I think she's going to rule that people can be removed as long as the SOS articulates (proof is irrelevant) a reason for removal. In this case: to support the foreign policy of the United States by cracking down on antisemitism.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:25 am to Nosevens
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Isn’t their something about illegal undesirables that pisses you off enough to take a stand against them ?
Sure, but Khalil wasn't here illegally.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:26 am to IvoryBillMatt
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I think she's going to rule that people can be removed as long as the SOS articulates (proof is irrelevant) a reason for removal. In this case: to support the foreign policy of the United States by cracking down on antisemitism.
That just seems like it would open a door that we don't want opened.
"Oh, you posted online that you don't support the war in Ukraine? See ya."
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:26 am to Pandy Fackler
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He's not here on a visa.
He was a legal permanent resident, no?
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:28 am to Indefatigable
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He's not here on a visa.
He was a legal permanent resident, no?
Yes.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:30 am to IvoryBillMatt
I'm glad you started this thread. The outcome will make for a good chat.
I'm at work. Update when you read something, seevooplay.
I'm at work. Update when you read something, seevooplay.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:30 am to IvoryBillMatt
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I think she's going to rule that people can be removed as long as the SOS articulates (proof is irrelevant) a reason for removal. In this case: to support the foreign policy of the United States by cracking down on antisemitism.
I agree to some degree. I am not sure "proof is irrelevant" but the case should turn on whether the Secretary's declaration is reasonable. I think it is reasonable and therefore I think the government will ultimately prevail, but I am not sure how this particular judge will rule. If I had to guess, I would guess she orders him released and this goes to the next court.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:35 am to Indefatigable
Holding a student visa is subject to cancellation which then makes it illegally being here.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:36 am to IvoryBillMatt
I'm torn on this one. If he wasn't here illegally, he has to have committed an actual crime, right? Did he?
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:37 am to Pandy Fackler
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Based solely on her response to all this right now. I get the impression she's going to rule against deportation.
What has been her response?
I think the circumstances suggest that she will fall in line with whatever her boss wants. As you know, she's not an Article III judge. She can be fired at any time for any reason by the Attorney General.
20 immigration judges were recently fired without explanation. Bondi suspended the DOJ lawyer who admitted that Abrego Garcia was illegally deported to El Salvador.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:38 am to blueboy
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I'm torn on this one. If he wasn't here illegally, he has to have committed an actual crime, right? Did he?
No. Congress has said he does not have to commit a crime to be deported.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:38 am to Indefatigable
That's a valid argument IF that is all they have.
I'll wait until the Justice Dept plays their hand of WHY
I suspect its way more than just saying stupid stuff about Israel
I'll wait until the Justice Dept plays their hand of WHY
I suspect its way more than just saying stupid stuff about Israel
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:40 am to IvoryBillMatt
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What has been her response?
I think the circumstances suggest that she will fall in line with whatever her boss wants. As you know, she's not an Article III judge. She can be fired at any time for any reason by the Attorney General.
20 immigration judges were recently fired without explanation. Bondi suspended the DOJ lawyer who admitted that Abrego Garcia was illegally deported to El Salvador.
This will give an indication.
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Not the entire thread, just the OP.
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