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Cool video shows the changing borders of Europe over 1000 years

Posted on 4/3/25 at 6:16 pm
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 6:16 pm



Crazy how empires rose and fell and how things we think of as so set in stone didn't even exist a few hundred years ago. Germany is younger than the United States.

And man the Polish-Lithuanian league used to be badass.


What borders surprised you?
This post was edited on 4/3/25 at 6:17 pm
Posted by YungBuck
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 6:22 pm to
My Hungarian homeland holding strong the entire video
This post was edited on 4/3/25 at 6:23 pm
Posted by ATrillionaire
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 6:27 pm to
France is here to stay.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 6:32 pm to
So wait, Ukraine was never really a country except for a blip in the early 1900s and then again for the last 30 years or so?
Posted by Tortious
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 6:33 pm to
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My Hungarian homeland holding strong the entire video


I never knew that and was impressed to be honest
Posted by ned nederlander
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 6:34 pm to
Take a look at a map of the Middle East 1900. Not a single country today existed then.

And yet there is one country that is singled out for its right to exist and whose inhabitants are called colonizers.

Things change. Every country today was birthed from war and human migration. Nothing is static or the way things should be.
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 6:43 pm to
Here's one for Rome
Posted by faraway
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 6:50 pm to
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Germany is younger than the United States.
what is interesting and amazing is that the German/Austrian area has been one of the most world influencing areas on the planet for over 2000 years: "barbaric" tribes, philosophers, bankers, etc.
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 6:53 pm to
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So wait, Ukraine was never really a country except for a blip in the early 1900s and then again for the last 30 years or so?



The Cossacks, IIRC, fled from Polish-Lithuanian rule and settled in the badlands, mixing with leftovers from the Mongol invasion.


Great video on them



The question is whether a place is the established borders or the people settled there.

I mean really that's one of the reasons borders change. When the people in a place no longer identify with their rulers.
This post was edited on 4/3/25 at 7:00 pm
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 7:04 pm to
What’s up with the water situation at the bottom right of the map? Huge ocean gets a lot smaller and then splits into two separate bodies of water. And water comes and goes over and over. How did that much land split the ocean in two?
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 7:08 pm to
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Huge ocean gets a lot smaller and then splits into two separate bodies of water. And water comes and goes over and over. How did that much land split the ocean in two?



Look closer. They put a kingdom in blue. Poor contrast choice and then it's taken over and you can see the two bodies of water again.


ETA: the kingdom of Georgia.


Bunch of bluenecks
This post was edited on 4/3/25 at 7:10 pm
Posted by Clark14
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 7:22 pm to
America is fortunate if we can keep it together.
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 7:31 pm to
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America is fortunate if we can keep it together.






I mean we aren't very old, wiped out most of our competitors, and got into empire late in the game at with a distinct industrial and military advantage.

We played on relatively easy mode
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 7:42 pm to
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 7:45 pm to
Wasn't the Polish-Lithuanian league once considered a third major league?
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 7:49 pm to
quote:

What borders surprised you?


I’m lifelong huge history nerd with a love of maps, so none.
Posted by CoachChappy
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 8:02 pm to
The Roman Empire under Trajan was massive!
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 8:35 pm to
quote:

America is fortunate if we can keep it together.


We won't.

Probably like most all of citizens believe that their nation is invincible. Until it's not.

We're big and powerful. And have been all of our lives.

Unfortunately, the popularity contest that we call elections doesn't seem to be the best way to choose our representatives and leaders. And even if it were, we've let the oligarchs buy them out.

The information age could give us hope, unless it overtakes us as well.

Drink up!
Posted by OweO
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 8:41 pm to
Turkey just hopped up in this bitch in 1908.
Posted by cypresstiger
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 8:46 pm to
That music is sure obnoxious. And how about that 300 year old Crimean kahnate?
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