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I think home prices are going to go down. I do not have a link.

Posted on 3/31/25 at 10:46 am
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 10:46 am
I'm pretty confident in saying I don't mind if the tariffs cause a devaluation of the stock market for instance, because inflation needs to be reversed.

The stock market run was ridiculous and there's no way it was going to last. Does that have an effect on real estate prices. Yes and no in my opinion. No financial guru can claim to be an expert on how ground level home buyers and home sellers think.

I also believe the George Soros type douchebags are going to try and frick with the market. Good. Let them. Tank that inflation shite. I've been holding pretty good cash for a while now. Buy low!

I realize real estate price drops could prevent folks from selling, and then supposedly limit the supply for new buyers to select from



thoughts

Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 10:56 am to
GOP in full control of the country, but always gotta have Soros on tap to throw some blame when things go bad. Jeff Landry, that you?
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 10:56 am to
gotta love the cowardly downvotes mixed with zero comments
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 10:56 am to
They had been going down pretty steadily in my area and then this last weekend my neighbor put a house up and got $25k over asking price and it was overpriced to begin with. WTH.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 11:00 am to
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They had been going down pretty steadily in my area and then this last weekend my neighbor put a house up and got $25k over asking price and it was overpriced to begin with. WTH.



Is it a hot market in that area?

Here in NWA, the Bentonville market is scorching hot, and Rogers/Springdale/Fayetteville only wish they could demand that kind of prices.

I've seen maybe 1-3 price increase - even in Bentonville - in 3 months

I realize people set the price too high to begin with and then have to show a decrease.
This post was edited on 3/31/25 at 11:02 am
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 11:03 am to
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Is it a hot market in that area?


If it was do you think prices would have been falling?
Posted by Suntiger
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 11:09 am to
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I'm pretty confident in saying I don't mind if the tariffs cause a devaluation of the stock market for instance, because inflation needs to be reversed.


Tariffs won’t curb inflation. Tariffs will increase prices paid by consumers. It won’t be inflation, but it will feel like inflation. Not sure where you are getting the above.

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I also believe the George Soros type douchebags are going to try and frick with the market. Good. Let them. Tank that inflation shite.


Does this include people like Musk or are you being partisan?
And I’m not sure you know how inflation works. Do you think billionaires are going to decrease profits to “tank inflation”? I honestly don’t get how you are getting from point A to point B on this.

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The stock market run was ridiculous and there's no way it was going to last. Does that have an effect on real estate prices. Yes and no in my opinion.


What’s the rational for your opinion. Just saying yes and no doesn’t allow anyone to analyze your thoughts here.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 11:09 am to
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If it was do you think prices would have been falling?




I just have a hunch even hot markets have peaked for a little while


I have not seen stats


When comparing Bentonville to Fayetteville, you can sell in Bentonville and then buy in Fayetteville and bank a tidy profit, 25 miles down. And I don't see price bumps in Fayetteville.

Bentonville prices are completely dependent on being in the downtown corridor or not. If it's speck houses in speck house development, who cares.

If it's old neighborhoods in the downtown Bentonville area, you pay through the nose. Just like many places.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 11:10 am to
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Jeff Landry


I don't know who that is
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 11:19 am to
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Tariffs will increase prices paid by consumers. It won’t be inflation, but it will feel like inflation. Not sure where you are getting the above.


Then retail price wars will begin, and prices will come down.

Macro 101

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Does this include people like Musk or are you being partisan?
And I’m not sure you know how inflation works. Do you think billionaires are going to decrease profits to “tank inflation”? I honestly don’t get how you are getting from point A to point B on this.


I think you're the one who's being partisan. Soros and the media want headlines about a "Stock market plunge!" because they dance for the lowest common denominator of the public.

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What’s the rational for your opinion. Just saying yes and no doesn’t allow anyone to analyze your thoughts here.



You edited out the other things I said about that, and then you want to lecture me.

Posted by kaaj24
Dallas
Member since Jan 2010
782 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 11:29 am to
It’s possible if there was a huge surge in unemployment.

However, everything I read housing supply is less than demand so basic economics would say prices wouldn’t move lower all other things being held equally.
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
55411 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 11:31 am to
Housing prices are screwed because we had over a decade of uncommonly low interest rates and during most of that period the federal government was engaged in outright QE or de facto QE (through excessive debt creation and then only servicing). This has created a housing market loathe to sell as home-sellers looking to change homes would likely end up with new mortgages 2x (or more) than their current mortgage for around the same sized home.

Because it's such a large swath of homeowners, it's going to take a pretty big black swan event (consumer credit bubble popping, for example) to begin correcting this. If not that, then we're going to see the current market as the status quo for a good while.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
13497 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 12:29 pm to
Losses in the stock market do not bode well for real estate. People feel defensive and don’t want to extend themselves. There is no “wealth effect”

Tarriffs are going to put a damper on home building too as costs are rising for lumber, aluminum and concrete at abnormal rates
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
86945 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 1:00 pm to
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thoughts


Values went up yoy close to 5%

Maybe some places they are and should
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
50826 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 1:22 pm to
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Then retail price wars will begin, and prices will come down.

Macro 101


Inputs go up, prices go up. Macro 101.

Price wars are never permanent if they ever happen, they are also a fools errand for any good company.


honestly I've never seen so many bad economics/finance takes in one short thread
Posted by VABuckeye
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Posted on 3/31/25 at 1:29 pm to
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Harry Rex Vonner


You really drank that kool-aid, eh?
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American southerner
Member since Nov 2013
43012 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 2:25 pm to
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Price wars are never permanent if they ever happen, they are also a fools errand for any good company.



Really? One of Sam Walton's stated goals was to help keep inflation down by keeping prices lower and lower.

I imagine Walmart might qualify as a "good company"

ETA: the price war launched by Walmart is over 5 decades old
This post was edited on 3/31/25 at 2:33 pm
Posted by Joshjrn
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Member since Dec 2008
29859 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 2:46 pm to
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I've been holding pretty good cash for a while now. Buy low!

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I just have a hunch even hot markets have peaked for a little while

How long have you been wishcasting on this, exactly?
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
50826 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 3:32 pm to
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Really? One of Sam Walton's stated goals was to help keep inflation down by keeping prices lower and lower.

I imagine Walmart might qualify as a "good company"

ETA: the price war launched by Walmart is over 5 decades old


Maybe 70 years ago groceries weren't a commodity business with prices varing greatly but they are now. Supply chains are essentially maximized. Also its not a price war; that was just being more efficient and gaining economies of scale. Also long term they tend to be bad for the consumer because it leads to consolidation of companies.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
36803 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 3:33 pm to
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I also believe the George Soros type douchebags are going to try and frick with the market. Good. Let them. Tank that inflation shite. I've been holding pretty good cash for a while now. Buy low!
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