I like the UFL onsides kick alternative

I like it as well. Surprised the number of times I've seen it converted, though.

I guess the distance depends on what the NFL feels is the appropriate success rate. Historically onside recoveries were closer to 20%, the last 3 years it’s been about 5%. Recoveries this past year actually went up to 6% with the new rules

But unless they tweak rules to help the kicking team they might as well ban onside kicks altogether. Even if kickers hit it perfectly it’s damn near impossible to recover. Hands teams today are too good

Perhaps that’s been the goal all along - just like moving up the kickoff and touchbacks to the 25 to minimize returns. Now they’re nonexistent and the frog has been boiled

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Historically onside recoveries were closer to 20%,

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You have to eliminate the surprise onsides kick to get to the accurate number.

20% seems very high.

Not a bad idea, they should increase the distance every time you try it - first attempt is 4th and 12, second attempt 4th and 24, third attempt is 4th and 36.

Better alternative: offense gets it 4th & 30 from their 10 while defense has to let John Chavis or a Pelini brother call the defensive play.