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So according to my leftist acquaintance, the burning of all of the Teslas

Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:06 am
Posted by RoosterCogburn585
Member since Aug 2011
1693 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:06 am
Is just an example of "serious vandalism". That's a direct quote.
Posted by SallysHuman
With Sally
Member since Jan 2025
3190 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:07 am to
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Is just an example of "serious vandalism". That's a direct quote.


But... the pollution? Aren't they concerned about climate change? Cow farts? Plastic Straws? Combustion Engines?
Posted by RoosterCogburn585
Member since Aug 2011
1693 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:17 am to
Well, see it's different we the person is aligned with someone they don't like. Then the pollution actually doesnt count.
Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
6048 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:18 am to
When a wacko lights fire to an abortion clinic it's called terrorism and hate crime. But another wacko burns a Tesla it's free speech.
This post was edited on 3/26/25 at 7:18 am
Posted by McChowder
Hammond
Member since Dec 2006
5629 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:20 am to
Examples of "excessive free speech" lol
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:23 am to
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When a wacko lights fire to an abortion clinic it's called terrorism and hate crime. But another wacko burns a Tesla it's free speech.
Has anyone in the entire country asserted that burning someone else’s vehicle is protected by the First Amendment?

As far as I can tell, they only debate is about what crime to charge: vandalism or arson.

I don’t even see much of a debate there. If you key the vehicle, it is vandalism. If you burn it, it is arson.
This post was edited on 3/26/25 at 7:25 am
Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
6048 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:24 am to
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vandalism or arson
those aren't the only option
Posted by RoosterCogburn585
Member since Aug 2011
1693 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:29 am to
Definition of terrorism from FEMA "the use of force or violence against persons or property in violation of the criminal laws of the United States for purposes of intimidation, coercion, or ransom". Pretty sure that fits it too a tee.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
18093 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:31 am to
He should read the definition of domestic terrorism.

That’s exactly what it is. Using fear and violence to influence political outcomes (my paraphrase).
This post was edited on 3/26/25 at 7:32 am
Posted by RoosterCogburn585
Member since Aug 2011
1693 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:33 am to
I didnt remember the abortion clinic terrorism thing. I asked him if that should stopped being referred to as terrorism and just be serious vandalism.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
54657 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:34 am to
Your friend would have you jailed if they knew you didn't tow 100% of the leftist mantra. You know this, right?
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Member since Jan 2011
24599 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:36 am to
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Has anyone in the entire country asserted that burning someone else’s vehicle is protected by the First Amendment?

Yes, the Democrat Party has.

Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
9204 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:36 am to
Your acquaintance is just an example of "serious retardation"
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
29605 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:38 am to
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"serious vandalism".


Nope, unfortunately for them this fits the definition of terrorism and could fall into the category of environmental terrorism as well... I hope they are caught and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law...
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:39 am to
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Definition of terrorism from FEMA "the use of force or violence against persons or property in violation of the criminal laws of the United States for purposes of intimidation, coercion, or ransom".
Definition of terrorism from TDPT "the use of force or violence against persons or property in violation of the criminal laws of the United States in toddleresque fits of emotional pique".
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
31555 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:41 am to
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Has anyone in the entire country asserted that burning someone else’s vehicle is protected by the First Amendment?


Above the fray DishonestHank here to stump for his pals. Cant make this stuff up
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
16970 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:42 am to
Hard truth is a percentage of the left wants to do actual harm to the MAGA base, they just want someone else to do it for them because they can’t do it themselves.

The polls during Covid proved it, more than half wanted the right locked up if they didn’t submit and their children removed from the homes of people they disagreed with.

The only chance we have to fix it without actual violence is if USAID/DOGE stops the flow of incendiary media to the DNC base and the “expert” class stops telling them the world is going to end if we don’t get the right out of the way so we can fix climate change / racism / patriarchy/ etc.

At the moment the left has successfully scapegoated and lightning rodded the right with their base by blaming them for everything wrong in their life whether true or imagined and pitting two groups against each other has always been the most effective way to maintain power.
Posted by BigTigerJoe
Member since Aug 2022
8842 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:45 am to
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As far as I can tell, they only debate is about what crime to charge: vandalism or arson.

Some arsonists just like to light fires. Some do it because they’re paid. An activist lights a fire against a perceived political opponent and now we have a terrorist.

Terrorism is the third obvious charge that you conveniently ignored, counselor.
This post was edited on 3/26/25 at 7:49 am
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
3975 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:50 am to
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those aren't the only option


And soon they will vandalise the wrong Tesla and find out.

It's not very smart or even rationale behavoir
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:50 am to
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Has anyone in the entire country asserted that burning someone else’s vehicle is protected by the First Amendment?
quote:

Above the fray DishonestHank here to stump for his pals. Cant make this stuff up

So, you think that I am DEFENDING the Tesla vandals/arsonists, by asserting that their actions do NOT constitute protected free speech?

Serious question: Were you dropped on your head as a child ... repeatedly?
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