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Interesting take from Hanny re: Shores...
Posted on 3/24/25 at 6:00 pm
Posted on 3/24/25 at 6:00 pm
If CJJ wanted to make a move, this Thur-Fri-Sat series is perfect. Leave Andersen and Eyanson on Fri and Saturday, and start Cowan on Thursday.
This would allow Shores to get innings during the mid-week and allow Cowan to take over on Sunday.
Hmmm?
This would allow Shores to get innings during the mid-week and allow Cowan to take over on Sunday.
Hmmm?
Posted on 3/24/25 at 6:09 pm to JakeRStephenes
Did him and Jimmy bet on if thid would happen or not? And then bring in their buddy from Biloxi, Beluchhh, to set the odds?
Posted on 3/24/25 at 6:13 pm to deathvalleyfreak43
Duane Colucci GOAT
Posted on 3/24/25 at 6:42 pm to JakeRStephenes
Hunt mentioned this today as a possibility as well. I don’t think it will happen this week as they aren’t ready to take away 1 of their only 2 reliable bullpen arms.
This post was edited on 3/24/25 at 6:43 pm
Posted on 3/24/25 at 7:10 pm to LSBoosie
Jay has always been adamant about keeping his starters on schedule.
Posted on 3/24/25 at 7:33 pm to JakeRStephenes
I think you missed the point
Posted on 3/24/25 at 7:34 pm to JakeRStephenes
Good to see Hanny lost some weight
Posted on 3/24/25 at 7:47 pm to JakeRStephenes
I could see them doing it on a short week, but I'm not sure it would be Cowan on Thursday. Kade would go Thursday, Eyanson on Friday, and TBD on Saturday. Guidry may be back this weekend, too.
Posted on 3/24/25 at 7:51 pm to JakeRStephenes
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Jay has always been adamant about keeping his starters on schedule.
Moving a starter up a day isn’t really moving them off schedule.
Posted on 3/24/25 at 7:56 pm to pastpredictor
He did it last year in this exact spot. Hurd was the Sunday guy. He went with Coleman on Thursday and Holman and Jump in their usual spots. Then Coleman went to Sunday and Hurd to the pen.
Posted on 3/24/25 at 8:09 pm to JakeRStephenes
Did Jimmy set a line for how many shrimp were on his poboy?
Over/under 6.5
Over/under 6.5
Posted on 3/24/25 at 8:10 pm to DRock88
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Guidry may be back this weekend, too.
According to who?
Posted on 3/24/25 at 8:46 pm to JakeRStephenes
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If CJJ wanted to make a move, this Thur-Fri-Sat series is perfect. Leave Andersen and Eyanson on Fri and Saturday, and start Cowan on Thursday.
This would allow Shores to get innings during the mid-week and allow Cowan to take over on Sunday.
Cowan was Wooford's best pitcher. He pitched 110 innings in 2024 with an era of 3.35 and a whip of 1.19. This not his first rodeo and Shores is struggling to fool anybody.
Posted on 3/25/25 at 5:27 am to JakeRStephenes
I've been wanting this, and talking about it since last week, after having seen Shores put up the same performances enough times. I simply do not agree with those who say we can't afford to lose a valuable bullpen arm. You either weaken the bullpen, or leave a weakness in the rotation. I'd prefer to have Cowan stretched out and get us deep with a lead to protect, rather than not having a lead to protect, and going to the 'pen early.
We used Cowan with a 6 run lead on Friday, and consequently had no one to bridge the gap to Evans with a lead on Saturday (more on that "gap" later), and then wound up using Evans in a 5 run deficit on Sunday, because we keep running Shores out there, expecting a different result.
I said it the other day. He does not have a reliable secondary pitch, which makes his fastball predictable, and renders the whole "flamethrower" label pretty meaningless. It's not like he just isn't throwing strikes. He throws a fair amount of strikes, he just doesn't put hitters away, and so I don't know what the coaching staff is expecting to happen when they put him out there.
If all he can do is throw gas right now, put him back in the bullpen and let him throw 100, and see if that works in short spurts. I don't see a better alternative at the moment.
On a side note, as I said I'd get back to bridging the gap to Evans on Saturday, it turns out that we apparently didn't need to bridge said gap, after all. We had a 1 run lead starting the 7th inning, and elected to go with any and everyone from there on out, except Evans. Yet, in a large deficit, Jay was willing to use him for 3.2 innings in a loss. What the heck was he thinking on Saturday, if he was willing, all along, to let Evans go that far? Why not go for the bird in hand and try to take the series when you had the chance? For all his recruiting prowess, and hitting genius for which he deserves all the accolades, I continue to question his pitching management.
We used Cowan with a 6 run lead on Friday, and consequently had no one to bridge the gap to Evans with a lead on Saturday (more on that "gap" later), and then wound up using Evans in a 5 run deficit on Sunday, because we keep running Shores out there, expecting a different result.
I said it the other day. He does not have a reliable secondary pitch, which makes his fastball predictable, and renders the whole "flamethrower" label pretty meaningless. It's not like he just isn't throwing strikes. He throws a fair amount of strikes, he just doesn't put hitters away, and so I don't know what the coaching staff is expecting to happen when they put him out there.
If all he can do is throw gas right now, put him back in the bullpen and let him throw 100, and see if that works in short spurts. I don't see a better alternative at the moment.
On a side note, as I said I'd get back to bridging the gap to Evans on Saturday, it turns out that we apparently didn't need to bridge said gap, after all. We had a 1 run lead starting the 7th inning, and elected to go with any and everyone from there on out, except Evans. Yet, in a large deficit, Jay was willing to use him for 3.2 innings in a loss. What the heck was he thinking on Saturday, if he was willing, all along, to let Evans go that far? Why not go for the bird in hand and try to take the series when you had the chance? For all his recruiting prowess, and hitting genius for which he deserves all the accolades, I continue to question his pitching management.
This post was edited on 3/25/25 at 5:38 am
Posted on 3/25/25 at 6:55 am to LSBoosie
What good is a reliable arm in the pen if you bring him in to a 4-5 run deficit?
Posted on 3/25/25 at 8:38 am to JakeRStephenes
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If CJJ wanted to make a move, this Thur-Fri-Sat series is perfect. Leave Andersen and Eyanson on Fri and Saturday, and start Cowan on Thursday.
This would allow Shores to get innings during the mid-week and allow Cowan to take over on Sunday.
Hmmm?
This would make our bullpen SIGNIFICANTLY worse.
Posted on 3/25/25 at 8:46 am to Metaloctopus
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I'd prefer to have Cowan stretched out and get us deep with a lead to protect, rather than not having a lead to protect, and going to the 'pen early.
This. What's better throughout a weekend?
a) Shores pitching roughly 4 innings and Cowan pitching 3 innings in relief
OR
b) Cowan pitching 6+ innings and Shores pitching 2-3 innings in relief
Give me Cowan for more innings. Cowan was a workhorse at Wofford and can handle the load. I think Shores would be fine in relief.
Posted on 3/25/25 at 9:10 am to JakeRStephenes
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Jay has always been adamant about keeping his starters on schedule.
Shores isn't ready for the Weekend. The guy hasn't seen this level of competition for a year. It doesn't take a village idiot to see that. Yeskie blowing smoke up Jay's arse won't change that either.
Posted on 3/25/25 at 9:59 am to LSBoosie
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I don’t think it will happen this week as they aren’t ready to take away 1 of their only 2 reliable bullpen arms.
The problem is that Cowan becomes a luxury they cannot afford when they currently have only one reliable starter. Shores pitched very well in the role Cowan is filling now in 2023. There’s always the risk that Shores will continue to be as ineffective in that role as he is as a starter, but he needs to become effective (or be replaced) regardless of the role he is filling.
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