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Is there such thing as a basic human right?
Posted on 3/18/25 at 5:35 am
Posted on 3/18/25 at 5:35 am
I recently read the book Evicted by Matthew Desmond. At the end of the book, the author argued that housing should be viewed as a human right. It made me think of what could presently be considered a human right. Rights are socially constructed, so there has to be consensus for a human right to exist. It’s also safe to say that US has different ideas about human rights than other Western countries.
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Posted on 3/18/25 at 5:36 am to 4cubbies
There’s no such thing as a right to health care.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 5:40 am to 4cubbies
The core marketing tenet of modern socialism (and its false premise) is that any working American should be able to enjoy any lifestyle of their choosing so long as they work any job full time.
It's the central thought behind #MuhLivingWage proponents and exorbitant minimum wage laws in blue, quasi-socislist states.
This simply isn't true, and it's retarded.
It's the central thought behind #MuhLivingWage proponents and exorbitant minimum wage laws in blue, quasi-socislist states.
This simply isn't true, and it's retarded.
This post was edited on 3/18/25 at 5:41 am
Posted on 3/18/25 at 5:41 am to 4cubbies
Yes, someone should have a right a plot of land in a prime location, free building materials, free labor to construct the house, maintain the house, and be provided gas/electricity for free 
If people want "free" housing, it should be off in federal lands - they wont want to live there though since its far from civilization. And they can build it themselves and handle their own gas bill
Something cannot be a "human right" if it requires the free labor of others
If people want "free" housing, it should be off in federal lands - they wont want to live there though since its far from civilization. And they can build it themselves and handle their own gas bill
Something cannot be a "human right" if it requires the free labor of others
Posted on 3/18/25 at 5:43 am to 4cubbies
Nope. There are not basic human rights. Equality doesn't exist either.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 5:45 am to 4cubbies
I'm not sure exactly how this works in other countries, but in the US many "rights" afforded to individuals are based on the nation's founder's belief in God. Our inalienable rights that are not provided by man, society, or government.
I also believe a person's rights would depend on the type of political system one lives in. In a capitalist system, I wouldn't agree a person has a right to housing but would need to work for their ability to have housing. In a socialist system, a persons housing is provided for.
I also believe a person's rights would depend on the type of political system one lives in. In a capitalist system, I wouldn't agree a person has a right to housing but would need to work for their ability to have housing. In a socialist system, a persons housing is provided for.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 5:45 am to 4cubbies
I've seen them listed somewhere. Life, liberty, pursuit of happiness. Speech and bearing arms.
I think that's it. God given, we're born with them. No consensus necessary.
I think that's it. God given, we're born with them. No consensus necessary.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 5:47 am to 4cubbies
quote:Then the author is a fricking moron.
he author argued that housing should be viewed as a human right
I mean. I'd be nicer about it but damn. This dumb arse actually thinks that even if I put zero effort in whatsoever, a collection of people are still REQUIRED to come together, gather resources, and build me a fricking place to live?
And you liked this book?
Posted on 3/18/25 at 5:48 am to 4cubbies
Sounds like you are longing for the days of Calliope, Desire, and Magnolia?
Perhaps Charity Hospital as well?
Perhaps Charity Hospital as well?
Posted on 3/18/25 at 5:50 am to 4cubbies
I think SHELTER and protection from the elements could be considered a right but not home ownership.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 5:53 am to Rex Feral
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ope. There are not basic human rights. Equality doesn't exist either
This is my thought, too. Maybe an argument can be made that people have a right to not be murdered but it’s not a protected right. No one can ensure that someone won’t be murdered.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 5:55 am to 4cubbies
quote:Other than those of one's own soul, rights are socially bestowed, rather than inherent.
Is there such thing as a basic human right?
quote:Indeed, hundreds of years of willing subservience to monarchs and autocrats laid that basis. Thank goodness American freedoms allow us the right to be exceptional.
It’s also safe to say that US has different ideas about human rights than other Western countries.
This post was edited on 3/18/25 at 5:56 am
Posted on 3/18/25 at 5:55 am to Von
quote:
've seen them listed somewhere. Life, liberty, pursuit of happiness. Speech and bearing arms. I think that's it. God given, we're born with them. No consensus necessary.
These aren’t absolute rights. They are social constructs with stipulations, not “God given.”
Posted on 3/18/25 at 5:56 am to 4cubbies
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Rights are socially constructed
But the thing is that houses are physically constructed. By people. What you give to one person you have to take away from another. There's a word for compelled labor whether it's construction or health care or picking cotton. Constructed or not the right to the fruits of one's own labor is the most fundamental of all.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 5:58 am to JumpingTheShark
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I think SHELTER and protection from the elements could be considered a right but not home ownership.
This is what the author was advocating. Shelter, not home ownership. The book was a condemnation of slumlords and gave insight into what acquiring and maintaining shelter is like for people living in poverty.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:00 am to 4cubbies
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housing should be viewed as a human right
We all know you have a soft spot for the homeless, but this is ridiculous.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:00 am to 4cubbies
Rights are a myth
Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:01 am to 4cubbies
Housing would be under your right to pursue happiness. You don’t have a right to shelter. You do have the right to pursue shelter. Work, earn, save, purchase.
It’s not difficult.
It’s not difficult.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:02 am to 4cubbies
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This is what the author was advocating. Shelter, not home ownership
So Calliope, Desire, and Magnolia?
Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:13 am to Rebel
I think we should look after the stupid and infirm and everyone should have the opportunity to make something of themselves. We can dump the lazy and capable leeches of in the middle of a forest.
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