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The Medium income Amercan Family now earns 1/2 the income needed to buy the avg home.

Posted on 3/12/25 at 6:25 pm
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6075 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 6:25 pm
It is very dangerous for the upper and upper middle classes to be so self absorbed as to be oblivious to the fate of the majority of the population.

The trade debate and the "free traders" are the quintessential example of such reckless indifference.

Let them learn from history's examples,


This post was edited on 3/12/25 at 7:16 pm
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
62761 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 6:26 pm to
There a lot of mansions in this country. One day poor people will just take them
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
11813 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 6:31 pm to
This generation is going to have to learn to suffer and save.

Not a new concept.

My first home after marriage in 1979 was a fixed 30 year at 13.4% interest 30% down.

We got through it small flat roof to save money on construction and small bedrooms on large lot compared to today.


Suffering in an honest debt builds a family.
Posted by GeauxBurrow312
Member since Nov 2024
2076 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 6:31 pm to
Naw to the commie shite. Its a manufactured crisis, over 80% of America lives in urban areas and urban areas typically have dems as the local government. Their insane zoning restrictions make it impossible to build

A lot of major cities also require a chunk of new housing be dedicated toward people who cannot afford to live there, which drives up the cost for those who can

Get rid of the stupid rules, let developers build, prices will fall
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
25169 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 6:35 pm to
quote:

The Medium income Amercan Family now earns 1/2 the income needed to buy the avg home.


More entitlements for the non workers will fix that right up!
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
14488 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 6:37 pm to
Life is hard.
Posted by geauxkoo
Member since Oct 2021
1554 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 6:37 pm to
If I could upvote you twice, I would.
Posted by Auburn80
Backwater, TN
Member since Nov 2017
8851 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 6:38 pm to
What’s keeping the prices up then? Somebody must be paying it.
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
11813 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 6:39 pm to
All that former John Lewis district in Atlanta is what you are talking about. The democrats have kept this west Atlanta area zoned out for decades. Really you have slum areas within sight of the World Congress Center.

Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
19272 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 6:41 pm to
Home prices are horrible and on a bubble, but when they look at these averages are the factoring the income or lack there of of the 40% who don’t work and are on entitlement programs? Single parent households?

Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
14656 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 6:42 pm to
Thanks Obama
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
48731 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 6:51 pm to
The problem is, people are not willing to start at the bottom and work their way up.

(#1) My first place was a small cheaply furnished apartment over a garage that I paid $90 a month for with water, gas and electricity.
(#2) Second place was a used manufactured home that I purchased under a lease to own. Paid it off in three years.
(#3) When I sold that I purchased a 3br home in a rapidly deteriorating part of town for $36k, at 8% interest on a owner financed deal.
(#4) Next was a house at $87k that had a two car garage, two bedrooms and two baths.
(#5) Next was a home at $165k, that had four bedrooms, 2.5 baths and 2 car garage.
(#6) then the home I'm in now has 4BR, a media room, two living areas, large designer kitchen, 3 car garage and a pool for $365k. That was in 2001.

The span of time was 26 years.

The problem is, nobody wants to start at #1 anymore. Everyone thinks they should be able to start at #5. They aren't willing to build their future by starting small and move up as their income moves up. They want it NOW! NOW! NOW!
Posted by The Baker
This is fine.
Member since Dec 2011
17069 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 6:53 pm to
quote:

This generation is going to have to learn to suffer and save. Not a new concept. My first home after marriage in 1979 was a fixed 30 year at 13.4% interest 30% down. We got through it small flat roof to save money on construction and small bedrooms on large lot compared to today. Suffering in an honest debt builds a family.


What you “went through” is not even close to what’s happening right now.
Posted by Stonehenge
Wakulla Springs
Member since Dec 2014
1718 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 6:53 pm to
Stop corporations from buying up homes
Posted by Cuthbert13
Member since Apr 2024
520 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 6:55 pm to
quote:

The problem is, people are not willing to start at the bottom and work their way up.
quote:

That was in 2001.

The span of time was 26 years.


Whose going tell him?
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
11482 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 6:56 pm to
quote:

Suffering in an honest debt builds a family.


If we could just resist financing depreciating assets……like the 25 year old with his first job out of college driving a $80k truck with a $1,300 note.

You start off behind the chains.
Posted by The Baker
This is fine.
Member since Dec 2011
17069 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 6:56 pm to
quote:

(#1) My first place was a small cheaply furnished apartment over a garage that I paid $90 a month for with water, gas and electricity. (#2) Second place was a used manufactured home that I purchased under a lease to own. Paid it off in three years. (#3) When I sold that I purchased a 3br home in a rapidly deteriorating part of town for $36k, at 8% interest on a owner financed deal. (#4) Next was a house at $87k that had a two car garage, two bedrooms and two baths. (#5) Next was a home at $165k, that had four bedrooms, 2.5 baths and 2 car garage. (#6) then the home I'm in now has 4BR, a media room, two living areas, large designer kitchen, 3 car garage and a pool for $365k. That was in 2001.


Quadruple the cost of all of that and keep your wage the same. Your situation in 1975 would have you living absolute squalor right now.
Posted by The Baker
This is fine.
Member since Dec 2011
17069 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 6:56 pm to
I guess I will
This post was edited on 3/12/25 at 6:57 pm
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
22390 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 6:57 pm to
My neighbor to my left and behind me in a different development but we share part of our backyard, joined the Air Force 4 years ago and is now a maintainer. He came in at 32 as a prison guard in Connecticut. His wife is a dental hygienist.

They just bought a house for $532,000 with 3% down on a VA loan.

If this guy can do that there’s literally reason to feel bad for anyone.

There’s plenty of older homes for under $400k available in the general area in perfectly fine parts of town so this was a splurge.
Posted by GusMcRae
Deep in the heart...
Member since Oct 2008
3545 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 6:59 pm to
What’s a medium income? Is that similar to what a psychic makes?

Oohhhh…. You meant median income (I think).
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