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Posted on 3/12/25 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 3/12/25 at 3:37 pm
We gave Johnson 3 years 30 million and Broncos just signed a much better tight end in Evan Engram for 2 years 23 million . Makes sense
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Posted on 3/12/25 at 3:50 pm to Houmatiger0626
Juwan is younger and cheaper.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 3:55 pm to saints5021
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cheaper.
Its a difference of 1.5 million a year, but Engram is under contract for a year less.
Given our situation, I'd rather have less years on the deal.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 4:05 pm to Fun Bunch
juwan was the better play all day long for the Saints.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 4:07 pm to Houmatiger0626
Soooooo….Now take Engram’s salary and add 6.5M for the dead money we would have incurred by voiding JuWan’s contract.
Or we can just FREE up 5M by just having JJ on the team
DRIVEMAN OUT
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Juwan Johnson's new deal: 3 years, $21.25 million guaranteed w/ $11M signing bonus
2025: $1.17M base fully guaranteed 2026; $9.08M base fully guaranteed 2027: $7.5M base, $2M roster bonus 5th day of league year
Up to $1.25M available in incentives for catches, yards, awards
Or we can just FREE up 5M by just having JJ on the team
DRIVEMAN OUT
Posted on 3/12/25 at 4:08 pm to Houmatiger0626
No use. This board has moved on to full offseason delusion mode.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 4:11 pm to Fun Bunch
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Given our situation, I'd rather have less years on the deal.
I think JJs contract has zero guarantees in the 3rd year.
Essentially a 2 year deal with 20m guaranteed
Even still, the cap will be so high by then this number wont be a factor.
This post was edited on 3/12/25 at 4:12 pm
Posted on 3/12/25 at 4:13 pm to Fun Bunch
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Given our situation, I'd rather have less years on the deal.
bunchie, they are both most likely 2 yr deals. Saints have an out 2 yrs and 21.25 million while allowing us to push about 6 million dead cap further out.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 4:15 pm to Houmatiger0626
Are you dumb. Engram simple math is hard for you. $23 million over 2 years versus $30 million over 3 hmmm.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 4:16 pm to death valley driver
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Or we can just FREE up 5M by just having JJ on the team
That’s one way to look at it drivey
Posted on 3/12/25 at 4:16 pm to saints5021
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Juwan is younger and cheaper.
Facts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 4:21 pm to Houmatiger0626
Put the Cuckoo back in the clock
Posted on 3/12/25 at 5:13 pm to Houmatiger0626
Loomis has been getting roasted on the radio for the signing.
And he should. Like one guy said, maybe, maybe for 20 million for three years.
No way in hell should he be making 10 million a year. His blocking pass, and run blocking is atrocious. It’s why Kubiak had Moreau starting over him.
This was as stupid as giving Cam that big extension at 34 years old.
And he should. Like one guy said, maybe, maybe for 20 million for three years.
No way in hell should he be making 10 million a year. His blocking pass, and run blocking is atrocious. It’s why Kubiak had Moreau starting over him.
This was as stupid as giving Cam that big extension at 34 years old.
This post was edited on 3/12/25 at 5:15 pm
Posted on 3/12/25 at 5:16 pm to death valley driver
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Soooooo….Now take Engram’s salary and add 6.5M for the dead money we would have incurred by voiding JuWan’s contract.
Missing the point, we should’ve let him walk, get a comp pick, and draft one this year in a deep te draft to back up Moreau, or send a mid tier pick and get the raiders te on the block.
This post was edited on 3/12/25 at 5:17 pm
Posted on 3/12/25 at 5:25 pm to Townedrunkard
Engram almost out produced Johnson last year in only 9 games 
Younger and cheaper tho
Younger and cheaper tho
Posted on 3/12/25 at 6:26 pm to saints5021
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Juwan is younger and cheaper.
And not nearly as good. And Engram ain’t even that good. Johnson wouldn’t make the roster on the majority of teams in the league. He is boo Williams
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Evan Engram among TEs since 2022:
?? 234 receptions (2nd)
?? 2,094 receiving yards (5th)
?? 97 first downs (6th)
Posted on 3/12/25 at 6:40 pm to saints5021
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Juwan is younger and cheaper.
Not by much on either account.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 7:54 am to Chalkywhite84
Posted on 3/13/25 at 8:15 am to Chad504boy
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while allowing us to push about 6 million dead cap further out.
You are aware this reduces in the future we can spend on future needs, right?
While the Commanders can afford Deebo Samuel and Tunsil type all pros, we kick the can on journeyman TE types.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 8:18 am to Townedrunkard
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Loomis has been getting roasted on the radio for the signing.
Moore made a huge mistake hitching his wagon to Loomis. The majority of candidates who punted on the Saints showed much more sense.
I’ll give Moore a shot but he clearly was hard up for any HC job.
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