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The Athletic ranks each MLB organization from 2000 to present
Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:53 pm
Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:53 pm
First, methodology
1. Yankees - 83
2. Dodgers - 73
3. Cardinals - 68
4 tie. Red Sox - 58
4 tie. Astros - 58
6. Braves - 50
7. Giants - 45
8. Phillies - 37
9. Angels - 29
10 tie. Rangers - 28
10 tie. Guardians - 28
12 tie. DBacks - 27
12 tie. Cubs - 27
14 tie. Twins - 24
14 tie. As - 24
16. Mets - 21
17 tie. Tigers - 20
17 tie. Rays - 20
19. White Sox - 18
20. Brewers - 16
21. Nats - 14
22. Blue Jays - 10
23 tie. Royals - 9
23 tie. Padres - 9
25. Marlins - 8
26 tie. Rockies - 7
26 tie. Mariners - 7
28. Reds - 5
29. Orioles - 3
30. Pirates - (-)4
quote:now, the rankings
Winning the World Series (WS): 9 points
Losing in the World Series (WSL): 6 points
Losing in the Championship Series (CS): 3 points
Losing in Division Series (DS): 2 points
Losing in Wild-Card Round (WC): 1 point
The scoring system also incentivizes division titles (+1 point) and penalizes prolonged losing cycles, docking teams (-1 point) each time they lose at least 90 games in consecutive seasons. Add up the point totals from 2000 to 2024 and you have the franchise rankings. It’s just simple math.
1. Yankees - 83
2. Dodgers - 73
3. Cardinals - 68
4 tie. Red Sox - 58
4 tie. Astros - 58
6. Braves - 50
7. Giants - 45
8. Phillies - 37
9. Angels - 29
10 tie. Rangers - 28
10 tie. Guardians - 28
12 tie. DBacks - 27
12 tie. Cubs - 27
14 tie. Twins - 24
14 tie. As - 24
16. Mets - 21
17 tie. Tigers - 20
17 tie. Rays - 20
19. White Sox - 18
20. Brewers - 16
21. Nats - 14
22. Blue Jays - 10
23 tie. Royals - 9
23 tie. Padres - 9
25. Marlins - 8
26 tie. Rockies - 7
26 tie. Mariners - 7
28. Reds - 5
29. Orioles - 3
30. Pirates - (-)4
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Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:53 pm to WestCoastAg
Thoughts? Interesting to see the Angels holding onto a top 10 spot from their run in the 2000s
Tigers are a little lower than I thought they would be
Tigers are a little lower than I thought they would be
Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:59 pm to WestCoastAg
Giants at only 45 is surprising but they're feast or famine out there.
Posted on 3/5/25 at 9:16 pm to WestCoastAg
Winning the World Series should be worth way more
Posted on 3/5/25 at 9:36 pm to 1ranter1
Idk. Can't be too overpowered to the point where it screws a decade of suck just because you won once
Posted on 3/5/25 at 9:37 pm to WestCoastAg
Surprised the Marlins are that high.
Posted on 3/5/25 at 9:37 pm to West Palm Tiger561
Also kinda surprised the white Sox sneak into the middle third
Posted on 3/5/25 at 9:44 pm to WestCoastAg
quote:
Can't be too overpowered to the point where it screws a decade of suck just because you won once
The Angels are 9th though
Posted on 3/5/25 at 10:10 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
All the humidor did was take a good bit of the unique fun out of watching a game at Coors.
Going to Rockies home games during the 1990s was a blast.
Going to Rockies home games during the 1990s was a blast.
Posted on 3/5/25 at 10:13 pm to WestCoastAg
quote:
Idk. Can't be too overpowered to the point where it screws a decade of suck just because you won once
Yeah, the methodology seems fair enough. For example, the Royals had 2 great years, but also had fourteen 90+ loss seasons. That's tough to wipe out with one World Series win.
The Angels on the other hand at least had several division championships with playoff series wins, along with narrowly avoiding consecutive 90-loss seasons.
Posted on 3/5/25 at 11:02 pm to WestCoastAg
So the make the points system come out to put Yankees on top? Interesting
Now do money spent per team to be in this mythical rankings and divide by placement.
Now do money spent per team to be in this mythical rankings and divide by placement.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 4:27 am to WestCoastAg
The CWS were a fluke in 2005.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 5:57 am to WestCoastAg
Ring culture poisoning sports
Baseball has 162 games, how can you only rank via post season successes
Should include points for over 90, 95 and 100 wins
Baseball has 162 games, how can you only rank via post season successes
Should include points for over 90, 95 and 100 wins
Posted on 3/6/25 at 6:19 am to WestCoastAg
quote:
Idk. Can't be too overpowered to the point where it screws a decade of suck just because you won once
F that, if my Pirates (and same for Vikings in NFL) win one title, I wouldn't care if they went 0 and ___ for the next 9.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 6:52 am to WestCoastAg
quote:
Idk. Can't be too overpowered to the point where it screws a decade of suck just because you won once
I think the vast majority of fanbases in all sports would make this trade.
For example most would want a one and done magical season over losing in the div series 5x over a decade.
This post was edited on 3/6/25 at 9:07 am
Posted on 3/6/25 at 8:42 am to WestCoastAg
quote:
30. Pirates - (-)4
their ownership doesn't get enough shite
Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:06 am to St Augustine
And it's fair to feel that way. Was more talking about how winning a single WS title in like 2007 shouldn't overpower sustained, division winning, playoff contending success when it comes to stuff like this I guess
Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:11 am to WestCoastAg
quote:
Idk. Can't be too overpowered to the point where it screws a decade of suck just because you won once
Which is why I'm surprised the Braves are that high considering how mediocre to bad we were from 2006-2017.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:19 am to WestCoastAg
Surprised the Rays are that low. The early 2000's were rough, but they've done great for a small market team since the first World Series appearance.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:52 am to WestCoastAg
quote:
Thoughts?
I think the methodology was created to fit the list they wanted. MLB Cash Cows on top. Period.
The fact that $$$ spent per win was not a factor in the methodology is the dead give away.
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