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410 for Turkeys

Posted on 3/4/25 at 11:30 am
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
25345 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 11:30 am
Anyone here use one?

If so, tell me about your setup.
Posted by Theduckhunter
South Louisiana
Member since May 2022
1348 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 12:06 pm to
I have a Rossi tuffy turkey with a viper red dot, Carlsons TSS choke for my wife. She likes carrying it a whole lot better than the 20 gauge. It’s cheap, light, and patterns great with apex ninja TSS. I bought mine a few years ago and the only downside is it occasionally will have a shell stick in the chamber after firing.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
25345 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 12:09 pm to
Thank you for the feedback!
Posted by DaFreakinFarmer
Member since Feb 2011
96 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 12:59 pm to
Here we go. Same people that bitch about folks taking ethical shots on deer are gonna come running to talk about how they hunt turkeys with the smallest gun possible.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
28111 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 1:22 pm to
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DaFreakinFarmer


1st down vote.

Are you familiar with what TSS shells are?

9 Shot leaving the barrel at 1100 fps is plenty out to 40yds.
Posted by DaFreakinFarmer
Member since Feb 2011
96 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 1:35 pm to
quote:

1st down vote.

Are you familiar with what TSS shells are?

9 Shot leaving the barrel at 1100 fps is plenty out to 40yds.


Yeah I'm plenty familiar with TSS. I just don't see how someone could justify shooting a 410 when you can shoot a 20 with 2x the pellets.

A .223 is plenty out to 100 yards on a deer, but if you came to this board advocating for hunting with it you'd be downvoted to hell and back.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
28111 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

I just don't see how someone could justify shooting a 410 when you can shoot a 20 with 2x the pellets.


Hell, I can't get them close enough to shoot them with a .50bmg...

ETA: I don't use a .410, fyi because of the above statement...
This post was edited on 3/4/25 at 1:46 pm
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
71032 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 1:51 pm to
I never understood why a turkey required a nuclear 12ga shell with a 2 oz payload.
Posted by Theduckhunter
South Louisiana
Member since May 2022
1348 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 2:18 pm to
quote:

Yeah I'm plenty familiar with TSS. I just don't see how someone could justify shooting a 410 when you can shoot a 20 with 2x the pellets.


Same way you can justify shooting a 20 over a 12. Except, the weight savings going from 20 to 410 are even greater than going from 12 to 20 (depending on guns).

Comparing apex ninja shells, 20 gauge has 1.25x more pellets than the 410. The 12 has 1.38x more pellets than the 20. You can go as overboard as you want, but a 410 with TSS at appropriate ranges is in no way inadequate.

Personally, I still carry either a 12 or a 20, but I wouldn’t hesitate to use the 410 if I needed to. I mainly got it for my wife/kid.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
25345 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 2:53 pm to
quote:

Here we go….


Calm down my man. I’m asking for the purpose of children using the gun. Or, would you rather my 8 year old grandson just manned up and shot my 835 with 3.5’s?

BTW, I know guys in Texas that hunt em with 22’s and 17’s. Head shots
This post was edited on 3/4/25 at 2:55 pm
Posted by RoIITide
Member since Dec 2010
987 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 2:59 pm to
Bought my son a Savage 301 410 and put a cheap (I think ~$79) Northtac Ronin p10 red dot on it (low mount). Looks like they don’t make the p10 anymore. I’m pretty sure he is using the choke that came with it.

He also uses the tss shells and hunted them with a Beretta A300 12 before he got the 301. I had to walk away when he was patterning it. $10 a shot.

He’s killed his limits with the 301 and the Beretta, and each one was as dead as the other.

I’m personally not a turkey hunter.
Posted by ccard257
Fort Worth, TX
Member since Oct 2012
1454 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 3:36 pm to
quote:

BTW, I know guys in Texas that hunt em with 22’s and 17’s. Head shots


most of us are switching to rifles chambered in 0.080 that shoot a single #9 TSS pellet.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
73110 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 4:35 pm to
If you can get real close, sure. Make sure to scout and pattern them in the morning and find the nests, and make sure your cracked corn is just over the property line.
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
6947 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 6:22 pm to
quote:

the weight savings going from 20 to 410 are even greater than going from 12 to 20 (depending on guns).


If we are talking about children, a 410 is ok but it still has much more limitations than a 20. You are correct it’s adequate, but so is eating steaks from a door to door salesman and no one here is going to choose that over Ruth’s Chris.

Most 20 gauges weigh about 7lbs. The 410s weigh 5. Sacrificing hundreds of pellets for 2 lbs for an able bodied male is retarded. For a female or child I can understand.


Posted by Theduckhunter
South Louisiana
Member since May 2022
1348 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 6:50 pm to
quote:

Sacrificing hundreds of pellets for 2 lbs for an able bodied male is retarded


While I agree there’s no need for an able bodied man to drop down to a 410, the apex ninja tss 410 shell has 57 more pellets than a 3-1/2” 2oz load #5. I think shooting a 2+oz load is probably more “retarded” than using a 410 with TSS.
This post was edited on 3/4/25 at 6:51 pm
Posted by cchoque93
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
768 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 8:25 pm to
First one was a yildiz .410 SxS. I was the first person to have jebs chokes for it too. I ended up selling it and getting a Tomahawk.410 from Kauger arms.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 9:15 pm to
With TSS you are good just pattern it. Hell I have never shot at a turkey past 60 feet maybe 30 feet. You are calling it in.

I would use the stick test and get him to target shot at 30-40 feet etc and then put a stick out when u hunt and tell him to shoot when turkey gets to the stick

Posted by Wavefan
St. Tammany
Member since Mar 2005
263 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 11:27 pm to
I’m preaching to the choir but remember you aren’t shooting a turkey. You are shooting a turkey’s head and neck. Those specialty 410s for turkeys throw a very dense pattern of tss 9 shot at 40 yards with plenty of punch to drop any Tom. Very effective. The reason we shoot 3 inch 5 or 6 lead or hevi shot out of our 12 gauge turkey guns is to to try to have a dense enough pattern at the same distance to land multiple pellets in the head and neck. Both strategies work. You are shooting your shotgun like a rifle at a small target. That said I’ve got enough invested in my 12 gauge and enough ammo considering I might pull the trigger on a turkey one to three times a season (at most) to forgo getting one of those neat 410 guns. But I know people who have switched and the 410s work just as well and just as far.
Posted by jgthunt
Walker
Member since Feb 2010
2648 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 11:40 pm to
I have two 410 turkey setups
Mossberg 500 with Holosun
Savage 301 Turkey with Vortex
Both have Carlson tss turkey chokes
I shoot Browning and Federal TSS #9
I have killed 3 with these setups out to 35 yards. I wouldn't go past 40.
I enjoy hunting with them and the 20 gauge. I will never go back to a 12 for turkey but that's just me.
Posted by MontanaTiger
Montana
Member since Oct 2008
3938 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 1:17 am to
28 gauge with TSS is a deadly turkey gun. Lighter than a 20, but much more lethal than a .410.
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