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Elon Musk says it is time to leave NATO and the UN
Posted on 3/2/25 at 7:57 am
Posted on 3/2/25 at 7:57 am
Do you agree?
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 7:57 am to John Barron
Posted on 3/2/25 at 7:58 am to John Barron
Oh hellz yeah gif
Posted on 3/2/25 at 7:59 am to John Barron
Of course.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 8:00 am to John Barron
I do agree.
We have nothing in common.
We had everything in common under leftist rule.
America is not a leftist country. American values don’t and won’t align.
Europe has chosen a less free path for its people.
I don’t want my tax dollars supporting LESS freedom.
We have nothing in common.
We had everything in common under leftist rule.
America is not a leftist country. American values don’t and won’t align.
Europe has chosen a less free path for its people.
I don’t want my tax dollars supporting LESS freedom.
This post was edited on 3/2/25 at 8:01 am
Posted on 3/2/25 at 8:00 am to John Barron
I respectfully disagree.
Look...I hate globalization as I feel like it leads to the curb of freedoms here in the United States due to our value system being different. However, it was our failure to participate in the League of Nations (the forerunner to the UN) in the aftermath of the First World War that ultimately led to the rise of Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany. We are there as a check against authoritarian imperialism and an assurer of the status quo. Without our power and influence, bad actors can rise and lead to the risk of global conflagrations that will kill tens of millions of people.
Look...I hate globalization as I feel like it leads to the curb of freedoms here in the United States due to our value system being different. However, it was our failure to participate in the League of Nations (the forerunner to the UN) in the aftermath of the First World War that ultimately led to the rise of Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany. We are there as a check against authoritarian imperialism and an assurer of the status quo. Without our power and influence, bad actors can rise and lead to the risk of global conflagrations that will kill tens of millions of people.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 8:00 am to John Barron
Both NATO and the UN take a lot of US resources yet give us back nothing but grief, disrespect, and headache.
Agree 100%.
Agree 100%.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 8:03 am to ibldprplgld
I agree. It's more a benefit to them than to the US. Putin isn't taking over Europe.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 8:05 am to John Barron
We should have left when the Berlin Wall fell.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 8:05 am to John Barron
It’s long overdue.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 8:05 am to John Barron
If Elon says it, I want it.
Only because I’ve pondered it for years.
but knowing how dems, now will melt the polar icecap, now I want it baaad.
Only because I’ve pondered it for years.
but knowing how dems, now will melt the polar icecap, now I want it baaad.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 8:06 am to John Barron
Elon definitely posts here.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 8:06 am to TechBullDawg
quote:
I agree. It's more a benefit to them than to the US. Putin isn't taking over Europe.
Probably so but we can still exert our influence
Posted on 3/2/25 at 8:08 am to John Barron
The UN has turned into a political extortion tool for enriching the coffers of smaller countries.
NATO exists solely for the protection of Europe from Russia. Yet, for some reason, those very same European countries have decided to not contribute to their own security and instead hide behind us. Use us and mock us. frick them.
NATO exists solely for the protection of Europe from Russia. Yet, for some reason, those very same European countries have decided to not contribute to their own security and instead hide behind us. Use us and mock us. frick them.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 8:09 am to John Barron
Posted on 3/2/25 at 8:09 am to John Barron
Absolutely!! It became obvious to me during all this Ukraine frickery. NATO was developed to stop the USSR spreading communism. The USSR no longer exist and the threat of communism spreading isn't a threat anymore.
We need something to stop the spread of woke globalist!!!
We need something to stop the spread of woke globalist!!!
Posted on 3/2/25 at 8:09 am to jmarto1
Take all our troops out of Germany also!
Posted on 3/2/25 at 8:09 am to RollTide1987
quote:
However, it was our failure to participate in the League of Nations (the forerunner to the UN) in the aftermath of the First World War that ultimately led to the rise of Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany.
That’s a cheap talking point we all learned in middle school but it’s simply not realistic or accurate.
Absent military intervention both of those things were going to happen due to forces such as the collapse of the Weimar Republic. The UN as it exists today wouldn’t have stopped it and to do so would’ve defied the popular will of the nations involved.
What would’ve stopped Hitler and the militarists in Japan would’ve been a strong US military clearly articulating from a position of strength that further expansion would mean war.
International politics is natural law with a bunch of worthless ambassadors tweeting.
It means nothing without the implied threat or use of force now and it wouldn’t have then either. Neither the League or UN would’ve had any substantive impact on WW2.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 8:09 am to John Barron
quote:As a minimum, NATO.
Elon Musk says it is time to leave NATO and the UN
UN can still be useful if we leverage our influence. Not against leaving it as well.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 8:09 am to John Barron
Big mistake to pull out. We're strengthened by Europe. You could just stay in NATO and reduce the money we give them. You can become more isolationist without giving up your influence on the world.
Last time I checked however, Ukraine is not in NATO. Don't let your opinions of this conflict make you go full retard.
Last time I checked however, Ukraine is not in NATO. Don't let your opinions of this conflict make you go full retard.
This post was edited on 3/2/25 at 8:11 am
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