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Matthew Tkachuk out for considerable period after Four Nations injury
Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:15 am
Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:15 am
Some reports are saying possibly the season. And now we are seeing why there is no chance the nba who pays players 200 plus million will ever do this during the middle of their season
Four Nations was awesome and the NBA has a serious problem with popularity declining. But I don’t think it’s realistic to hope for anything similar to happen here.
Old people and others want to try and compare NHL and NBA players “love for the game” etc, but the money is so different it’s apples to boulders in terms of comparison
Four Nations was awesome and the NBA has a serious problem with popularity declining. But I don’t think it’s realistic to hope for anything similar to happen here.
Old people and others want to try and compare NHL and NBA players “love for the game” etc, but the money is so different it’s apples to boulders in terms of comparison
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:21 am to lsupride87
all you wanna do. Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:25 am to lsupride87
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And now we are seeing why there is no chance the nba who pays players 200 plus million will ever do this during the middle of their season
Chicken or egg. There’s no $200 million to be made if your product dies. Are we there yet? Of course not, but the NBA has to get serious about getting it together.
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:35 am to lsupride87
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And now we are seeing why there is no chance the nba who pays players 200 plus million will ever do this during the middle of their season
No one would care. The NBA is easily the most unlikeable, unrelatable pro sports league in the country.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:38 am to lsupride87
Everyone in the NBA is always hurt anyway.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:38 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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There’s no $200 million to be made if your product dies
The latest NBA media deal that was just signed pays them 2.5-3x the old one.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:42 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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Chicken or egg. There’s no $200 million to be made if your product dies. Are we there yet? Of course not, but the NBA has to get serious about getting it together.
Their new rights deal hasnt even started yet and you are asking if they are running out of money?
no. For the next 11 years they will be making almost 3x what they are currently making quote:
The 11-year deal is worth a $76 billion, per the Associated Press. The nine-year, $24 billion deal that the NBA currently has -- which airs games nationally on ESPN/ABC and TNT -- expires at the end of the 2024-25 season. This new deal will kick in for the 2025-26 campaign and run through the 2035-36 season.Jul 24, 2024
This post was edited on 2/24/25 at 9:43 am
Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:51 am to lsupride87
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Old people and others want to try and compare NHL and NBA players “love for the game” etc, but the money is so different it’s apples to boulders in terms of comparison
Is the money really that different? Yes the NBA makes more but players in both leagues at that level are still rich as f-. Every athlete now in the four major sports is a millionaire making billionaires more money
It’s not about the money the player loses because he’s injured (if the contract is guaranteed he loses none of it), it’s about the value to the team lost because the star player got hurt (not just in one half speed exhibition, but in an unneeded four game balls-to-the-wall war on ice). It’s harder to replace stars than role players
This post was edited on 2/24/25 at 9:59 am
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:04 am to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:NBA guys are about to make a lot more
Chicken or egg. There’s no $200 million to be made if your product dies. Are we there yet? Of course not, but the NBA has to get serious about getting it together.
I would like to see professional leagues lower the amount of games they play.
I’d like baseball games with more on the line and with better pitching matchups. Less games would help, wouldn’t it?
Same with the NBA. Less games, maybe less playoff teams, so a Thursday night slate of games becomes much more important and the best players would be on the court.
Blame the players all you want, but godly amounts of money and every team making the playoffs is going to cause some quality issues.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:06 am to chalmetteowl
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Is the money really that different? Yes the NBA makes more but players in both leagues at that level are still rich as f-. Every athlete now in the four major sports is a millionaire making billionaires more money
Yes the money is that different.
Role players/bench guys make as much or more than the highest paid nhl player.
When the new nba tv deal kicks in you’ll have scrubs fighting to get on the court out earning the nhl’s best.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:08 am to lsupride87
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Some reports are saying possibly the season. And now we are seeing why there is no chance the nba who pays players 200 plus million will ever do this during the middle of their season
Four Nations was awesome and the NBA has a serious problem with popularity declining. But I don’t think it’s realistic to hope for anything similar to happen here.
Old people and others want to try and compare NHL and NBA players “love for the game” etc, but the money is so different it’s apples to boulders in terms of comparison
At some point the dollars start to run out. Four Nations will hopefully show a big bump for the NHL popularity-wise. Europe also seems to get it done with all the tournaments they have with Soccer as well, so I don't think it's as cut and dry.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:11 am to chalmetteowl
quote:It is.
Is the money really that different?
A Google search returned the largest NHL contract of all time as 8 years, $112M, or $14M per year.
Nearly 120 NBA guys make that per year right now and I’m pretty sure the NBA’s new deal will only make the gap wider, no?
Their pay isn’t in the same universe.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:12 am to JohnnyKilroy
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Role players/bench guys make as much or more than the highest paid nhl player.
When the new nba tv deal kicks in you’ll have scrubs fighting to get on the court out earning the nhl’s best.
I know some dont like the owners too much but the players making too much money (and fully guaranteed) is part of what’s ruining the NBA… like the stars deserve their money but no one’s going to games to watch the middle class of players…
This post was edited on 2/24/25 at 10:14 am
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:13 am to lsupride87
doesn't he play for the Senators? that sucks, he's their best player i think
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:17 am to ReauxlTide222
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Nearly 120 NBA guys make that per year right now and I’m pretty sure the NBA’s new deal will only make the gap wider, no?
Their pay isn’t in the same universe.
Yep, although i would love to see the NHL become way more popular. It really is a great sport but i dont find myself tuning in as often as id like. Not having a favorite team to root for really does make it hard to be excited to watch outside of betting interests
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:48 am to SlowFlowPro
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The latest NBA media deal that was just signed pays them 2.5-3x the old one.
I’m aware, that deal comes to an end at some point no?
Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:53 am to Corinthians420
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Their new rights deal hasnt even started yet and you are asking if they are running out of money? no. For the next 11 years they will be making almost 3x what they are currently making
Again, I understand. Look at professional golf as an example though. With all of this LIV shite and the tv product declining in popularity there have already been changes to a rights deal they signed within like 12 months.
Basketball, obviously, isn’t golf. But tv executives are stupid either, there are way in those contracts for them to protect themselves too. And I’m not saying it will ever even get there, but they’ve got to figure something out. The product can’t suck forever
Posted on 2/24/25 at 11:16 am to Mingo Was His NameO
Ratings are down 5% from last year. Take that out of the next tv deal and they will still be making almost 3x more than what they are currently making lol.
Also people on this board love to act like this is an nba problem while lauding the NHL which is down 11%
Maybe the actual key number is cable subscriptions overall being down 8%
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League pass subscriptions are also way up but i think a lot of those can be attributed to deals with fanduel and draftkings to give out free subscriptions for the first 3 months.
Also people on this board love to act like this is an nba problem while lauding the NHL which is down 11%
Maybe the actual key number is cable subscriptions overall being down 8%
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Declining TV viewership is not exclusive to the NBA. The NHL is down 11% this year—despite a widely successful 4 Nations Face-Off—and even the NFL was hit with a 2% dip this year. The wide trend can be attributed to the decline in overall cable subscribers, which is down 8% year over year, according to Nielsen.
For all the hand-wringing about the NBA, its social media numbers continue to surge. The league’s content across social media has generated 83.5 billion views this year, up 41% from last year, per Videocites.
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League pass subscriptions are also way up but i think a lot of those can be attributed to deals with fanduel and draftkings to give out free subscriptions for the first 3 months.
This post was edited on 2/24/25 at 11:18 am
Posted on 2/24/25 at 11:20 am to Corinthians420
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Ratings are down 5% from last year
They’ve been down every year for a few years though, no? So you have to aggregate the declines and the deal that kicks in next year was mostly negotiated a couple of years ago.
I feel like I’m pretty realistic about this, I like the NBA. But it’s gotten out of control. The season is too long, the players don’t play, you have Durant firing off tweets telling people not to watch, etc, etc.
Everything is cool, until it’s not
Posted on 2/24/25 at 11:45 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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They’ve been down every year for a few years though, no? So you have to aggregate the declines and the deal that kicks in next year was mostly negotiated a couple of years ago
All ratings are down, nba ratings are pretty steady and are actually up as a percentage of total viewers compared to where they were 10-20 years ago
1.59 million out of 65 million total views is a bigger piece of the pie than 2.5 million out of 112 million, which is why the tv money keeps getting higher. Live sports are the only thing worth paying for the rights to because nobody watches other stuff live.
In 2002-03 you had 102 million people watching live primetime tv and 1.58 million watching the nba the nba game. Now you only have 65 million people watching primetime tv but the nba is still getting that same 1.58 million viewers
This post was edited on 2/24/25 at 11:50 am
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