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Insider gaming gives data on AC Shadows; preorder numbers, etc

Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:34 am

Posted by td01241

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Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:34 am

Insider gaming

For those that don’t know Tom Henderson and insider gaming are by far away the best reporting on anything regarding ubi. Their sources are rock solid and they don’t miss. Full article above but I’m interested in the preorder numbers, quoting below

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At the time of writing, Shadows currently has around 300,000 pre-orders, said sources and Odyssey’s day one player numbers were between 400-450,000; a gap of around 100-150,000 that needs to be made up in the next four weeks

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Looking at the data, if Shadows continues the same trajectory as Odyssey throughout launch, it’s estimated that the game could sell approximately 3.5 million units in its first month. Valhalla, which was the series’ most successful Assassin’s Creed game had some eight million players in its first month

Yeah I don’t think this enough, anywhere close to enough actually to save Ubisoft. They’re cooked baws

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Posted by UltimateHog

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Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:54 am to td01241

Why did you cut out the most important part?

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with more than 65% being attributed to past-generation consoles at the time.

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Posted by td01241

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Posted on 2/22/25 at 9:21 am to UltimateHog

Because numbers are numbers. It’s true that context explains the widening massive gap somewhat due to it being a ps4 title as well, I just don’t see how that matters practically for the point of the thread. Which is if these are accurate, and again insider gaming isn’t really ever wrong about Ubisoft and they mostly only write about Ubisoft, I think they’re fricked.

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Posted by Corinthians420

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Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:47 pm to td01241

they will probably go bankrupt. they deserve it but man they put out so many games it will create a void in the gaming world. my favorite releases from them the past couple years were Rainbow 6 Siege (old now), Anno 1800, Watch Dogs: Legion, and Trackmania.

i guess it's more likely they'll sell for pennies on the dollar to microsoft

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Posted by UltimateHog

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Posted on 2/22/25 at 1:01 pm to td01241

Most of what I've read say the preorder numbers are quite good. Matching Odysseys final numbers with still a month to go, doubling Star Wars as the article also says. I was surprised the numbers were so high when I read this article a week ago.

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Posted by imjustafatkid

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Posted on 2/22/25 at 1:12 pm to td01241

I bought on ubisoft stock in anticipation of them having to sell when this bombs. I guess this being a success would serve me just as well.

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Posted by RemouladeSawce

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Posted on 2/22/25 at 5:39 pm to td01241

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At the time of writing, Shadows currently has around 300,000 pre-orders, said sources and Odyssey’s day one player numbers were between 400-450,000; a gap of around 100-150,000 that needs to be made up in the next four weeks

It won’t be made up. This game has been delayed so many times, everyone who was going to pre-order by now would have and there’s no hype/momentum

It’s not going to be a Concord but it’s not going to save them. Too many people have formed opinions at this point, the only way they can be overcome is if the game turns out to be a classic. That’s not going to happen

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Posted by theducks

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Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:02 pm to UltimateHog

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AC Valhalla made over $1 billion in revenue and this game will absolutely top that.

- UltimateHog

Per you in the other thread. Are you hedging now?

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Posted by UltimateHog

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Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:03 pm to theducks

Absolutely not. Got 2 years to go.

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Posted by td01241

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Posted on 2/22/25 at 11:05 pm to UltimateHog

You think Ubisoft last two years? I honestly don’t. The company is treading a net worth total of around a billion and many people who know more about this than me have made the claim at this point their IPs are more valuable than the actual company. I’ve also seen estimates this game will need 10 million in sales to keep them afloat. I don’t know if that’s true but I don’t think they will get anywhere near it. For single player games the first 1-3 months is everything bar the rare title like Witcher 3. It won’t be a Veilguard level disaster but I’d say 3.5-5 million sounds about right. Which unfortunately, if you want to save UBI, just will not be enough

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Posted by TexasTiger1185

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Posted on 2/23/25 at 1:48 am to td01241

I will 100% play this game. I’ve played all AC games and love the series.

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Posted by td01241

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Posted on 2/23/25 at 3:59 am to TexasTiger1185

I am really happy for you. I dont think ive enjoyed a Ubisoft game in a very long time. They definitely have some killer IPs though. Enjoy them while they last because its last call for that company. I hope whomever gets their IPs actually puts them to use and does a good job. It will likely be tencent so putting them to use will likely happen. Who knows about the quality.

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Posted by Roaad

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Posted on 2/23/25 at 4:47 am to td01241

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You think Ubisoft last two years?

If AC Shadows doesn't blast out of the gate with epic numbers, Ubisoft will be sold

They almost sold to Tencent already, but for the untenable conditions of the sale.

If Shadows doesn't absolutely dominate, the investors will force them to sell.

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Posted by Klark Kent

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Posted on 2/23/25 at 1:27 pm to td01241

how many copies do you think sicboy has preordered?

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Posted by Centinel

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Posted on 2/23/25 at 9:41 pm to Klark Kent

However many his wife’s boyfriend allowed him to.

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Posted by SaintEB

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Posted on 2/24/25 at 7:17 am to Klark Kent

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how many copies do you think sicboy has preordered?

He bought me one. j/k I purchased it for my wife's boyfriend.

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Posted by td01241

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Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:06 pm to SaintEB

Apparently the game has leaked and is out there. People have physical copies. Buckle up

more to come.

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Posted by lsuconnman

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Posted on 2/25/25 at 7:34 pm to td01241

I just found it all confusing. It jumps around between preorders, first day, first month and seems to use the terms interchangeably while comparing three different games.

Ubisoft is notorious for 50-70% off sales within the first weeks of release, sponsor codes and the subscription service.

The final numbers will be whatever Ubisoft wants to claim. Given how much they started leaning on paid influencers leading up to the Star Wars game, I suspect you’ll start seeing an increasing number of articles declaring “Ubisoft is back!” in the coming weeks.

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Posted by P-Dawg

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Posted on 2/26/25 at 4:53 am to lsuconnman

Truly a "return to form for ubisoft" moment.

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