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Vance Offers Advice To Zelenskyyy: You’re Not Helping Yourself
Posted on 2/20/25 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 2/20/25 at 2:38 pm
“The idea that Zelensky is going to change the president’s mind by badmouthing him in public media, everyone who knows the president will tell you that is an atrocious way to deal with this administration,” Vance told the Daily Mail in an interview.
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 2:40 pm to LuckyTiger
You can blame Europe for this hubris. He thinks they are giving him 700B.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 2:42 pm to LuckyTiger
Take a page from Vance's book. Kiss Trumps arse and hate him quietly. Look where Vance is today. 
Posted on 2/20/25 at 2:43 pm to Vacherie Saint
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You can blame Europe for this hubris. He thinks they are giving him 700B.
Even if Europe did do this, Europe probably doesn’t yet realize Z will be back with his hands out and demanding more from them in relatively short order.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 2:47 pm to Great Plains Drifter
Most of that money never makes it to the front anyway, comrade. The slopes of Aspen are evidently teeming with newly minted Ukrainian billionaires.
All the money in the world doesn’t fix his people problem. Russia has way more soldiers than Z does.
All the money in the world doesn’t fix his people problem. Russia has way more soldiers than Z does.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 2:48 pm to dagrippa
Are you a white male liberal?
Posted on 2/20/25 at 2:49 pm to LuckyTiger
Z wants to blow up the peace process. Continued war is how he stays in power.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 2:50 pm to Great Plains Drifter
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Even if Europe did do this, Europe probably doesn’t yet realize Z will be back with his hands out and demanding more from them in relatively short order.
It’s exactly like feeding a stray cat.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 2:54 pm to SloaneRanger
I think he’s more enamored with the money than his dictator status, but there’s definitely something there. He was open to negotiating peace early on, then the billions started pouring in and the West under Biden literally took peace off the table. He puffed his little fricking chest back out when Europe promised him that 700B. And I believed they did it to kill the peace talks Trump is trying to usher, since the cessation of US aid was his leverage to get Zelensky to the table.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 3:01 pm to Vacherie Saint
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He puffed his little fricking chest back out when Europe promised him that 700B. And I believed they did it to kill the peace talks Trump is trying to usher, since the cessation of US aid was his leverage to get Zelensky to the table.
He sounds like Moe Greene talking to Michael Corleone: “I talked to Barzini - I can make a deal with him and still keep my hotel.”
Of course, we all know how well that ended for Moe Greene.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 3:01 pm to Vacherie Saint
It's definitely both that he's enamored with. I hate it for the lives that have been lost, and will continue to be lost, until this ends. If EU wants to give him 700B and prolong this war and continue to agitate Russia, that's their demise. But this is where I say, as long as we stop funding it, I don't give a single shite.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 3:02 pm to SloaneRanger
quote:If Trump wasnt in office, it would concern me. But since he is, if Zelensky keeps attacking Russia after the peace talks, our hands are clean of the situation and they know it. Trump and Co will just sit back and watch it all unfold (as he should).
Z wants to blow up the peace process. Continued war is how he stays in power.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 3:04 pm to LuckyTiger
God, people who insult others but get so butt hurt when they get insulted back are the most annoying people on the earth.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 3:06 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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If Trump wasnt in office, it would concern me. But since he is, if Zelensky keeps attacking Russia after the peace talks, our hands are clean of the situation and they know it. Trump and Co will just sit back and watch it all unfold (as he should).
I’ve been saying it all along. Trump is actually doing the midget a favor. He’s interceding to get terms that will keep the little frick alive. He could just clap his hands, say “I’m out”, and let the chips fall where they may.
At the end of the day, it’s not our fight.
This post was edited on 2/20/25 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 2/20/25 at 3:09 pm to dagrippa
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Take a page from Vance's book. Kiss Trumps arse and hate him quietly. Look where Vance is today.
You wokesters have been reduced from throwing grenades to hurling Kleenex.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 3:11 pm to Godfather1
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I’ve been saying it all along. Trump is actually doing the midget a favor. He’s interceding to get terms that will keep the little frick alive.
Ya except that makes no sense. Zelensky (even if out of power) will always be a target of Russia.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 3:13 pm to aero1126
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Zelensky (even if out of power) will always be a target of Russia.
Then what are we doing getting involved at all?
You just made my argument for me.
This post was edited on 2/20/25 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 2/20/25 at 3:29 pm to LuckyTiger
Not a fan of Zelenskyy at all. He’s a grifter. However.., I simply can’t imagine the immense pressure he is now under. Without the US money and silly support.. he is in a true pressure cooker and time is ticking down.
The EU is talking collective shite but they aren’t going to do much at all. They are weak as frick and everyone knows it.
The EU is talking collective shite but they aren’t going to do much at all. They are weak as frick and everyone knows it.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 3:32 pm to Godfather1
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like feeding a stray cat.
more like feeding a possum
Stray cats don't leave messes behind for you to clean up.
Cats are neat critters.
This post was edited on 2/20/25 at 3:33 pm
Posted on 2/20/25 at 3:40 pm to Tridentds
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The EU is talking collective shite but they aren’t going to do much at all. They are weak as frick and everyone knows it.
At the end of the day, they’ll hang Z out to dry if it’s in their best interest to do so. And realistically, it is.
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