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Why the ‘redheaded stepchild’ of renewable energy is poised to rise under Trump

Posted on 2/12/25 at 1:45 pm
Posted by ragincajun03
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Posted on 2/12/25 at 1:45 pm
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AUSTIN, Texas — Even as President Trump slashes support for wind and solar energy, another renewable energy source is finding unexpected favor under his second administration.

In early February, newly confirmed Secretary of Energy Chris Wright named geothermal energy, which uses underground heat to generate clean heat and electricity, as one of the prime areas for department research and development.

And geothermal advocates see Trump’s own pledges to “drill, baby, drill” — even if primarily intended to benefit the oil and gas industry — as offering both rhetorical and practical support for the nascent enhanced geothermal industry, which uses technologies like fracking to extract the heat from the earth.

The sector is still “10 to 15 years” behind where wind and solar are, and raising capital is tough, Cindy Taff, chief executive of geothermal company Sage Geosystems, told The Hill.


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Geothermal proponents interviewed by The Hill argue it could soon offer heating, cooling and electric power in a form that combines the cheap, pollution-free aspects of wind and solar power combined with the on-demand security of fossil fuels.

Those advantages, they argue, make the industry particularly well placed to help meet the demand of the new data centers, which require massive quantities of electricity to run and cool off their servers: A November McKinsey study found that data center electricity demand would more than quadruple by the end of the decade — requiring additional electricity about equal to all the power the state of Texas used in 2024.

For one thing, they noted, geothermal energy is nearly as plentiful as solar. Last year, the International Energy Agency (IEA) found that there is enough accessible heat within the Earth to increase global electricity demand by a factor of 140.

It can also be produced on a more consistent basis. Geothermal plants on average ran 75 percent of the time in 2023, according to the IEA — far more than solar.


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Many were tentatively excited about Trump’s pick of Wright, pointing to his deep experience — as head of oilfield services company Liberty Energy — with oil and gas drilling, which has significant overlap with geothermal technology. While generally focused on oil and gas, Wright’s company, Liberty Energy, invested $10 million in Houston-based geothermal startup Fervo Energy.

Wright “wants to unleash base load power, and we think geothermal really fits the bill,” Charlotte “Coco” Wallace, who leads policy and business development for geothermal startup Quaise, told The Hill.


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“For geothermal, that is potentially HUGE,” Beard wrote to The Hill. Most of the hottest, most accessible rock in the country is in the West, nearly half of which is federally owned. In those regions, “red tape” has made geothermal projects a “slog,” she said.

Much of the energy in geothermal is currently based in Houston, Texas, site of the nation’s biggest oil and gas industry workforce and home to billions in energy capital. Many oil giants now have geothermal divisions, and Texas leads in startups.


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Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 2/12/25 at 1:46 pm to
Geothermal makes a lot more sense than wind or solar
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 2/12/25 at 1:47 pm to
Hold on while I check the DNC website to find out how this idea is racist
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
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144688 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 1:48 pm to
I'm the red headed stepchild bag holder on Solar stock
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 2/12/25 at 1:51 pm to
i remember when an office building in monroe went up that used geothermal cooling it was a huge deal. that was like 30 years ago now...
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/12/25 at 1:51 pm to
Is this basically like creating manmade geysers to turn turbines with steam? Piping water down close to the magma and letting it steam back up?
Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
4653 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 1:58 pm to

I always saw this as a flaw in the movie, The Matrix.

The machines build a vast energy sector to grow humans to turn them into "batteries" because we cut off solar and other forms of energy in hopes of starving them out.

The escaped humans live deep underground where geothermal energy keeps them warm and powered up.

Why didn't the AI machines just tap into geothermal energy?



Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
6865 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 2:00 pm to
Didn't Biden hold some big press conference on some fusion breakthrough that would bring about free ene=rgy. When do we get that?
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
17793 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 2:07 pm to
Geothermal is a much more efficient and capable power source but is geographically limited by current drilling technology. Nuclear is still the best overall.
Posted by redstick13
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Member since Feb 2007
39831 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 2:10 pm to
Half of the projects i have running right now are Geothermal. It's nice to have the new energy market as part of your work portfolio for obvious reasons.

Eavor are planning their next loop a few kilometers from my house. Should get started in 2026.

Posted by redstick13
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 2/12/25 at 2:13 pm to
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Is this basically like creating manmade geysers to turn turbines with steam? Piping water down close to the magma and letting it steam back up?


Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
24998 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 2:13 pm to
Read something the other day that an operator in the Permian recently drilled and produced “battery grade” lithium from produced water.
Posted by St Augustine
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Posted on 2/12/25 at 2:14 pm to
Anything on nuclear yet?
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
39831 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 2:16 pm to
I haven't been involved with any of these lithium projects yet. The two I've heard about recently are Vulcan and Lithium de France.

Big Red offered their services for free for one of these projects in return for a stake in the lithium assets.
Posted by TigerHornII
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 2/12/25 at 2:19 pm to
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Hold on while I check the DNC website to find out how this idea is racist


It's not. It's misogynistic and homophobic, not to mention anti-trans.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
17710 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 2:34 pm to
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Geothermal makes a lot more sense than wind or solar

The biggest downside to wind and solar is location. Due to government subsidies, they put them in places where you never get ROI and it just doesn't work because people think they're helping the environment. The best place for wind and solar is actually just to the west of DFW. Flat with howling winds and scorching sun. It's where the wind belt and sun belt intersect.
Posted by Hodag
Northwoods
Member since Sep 2024
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Posted on 2/12/25 at 3:03 pm to
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I'm the red headed stepchild bag holder on Solar stock


How are solar stocks these days?

Friend of mine moved to California back in the day and ran a solar sales team. They all ended up just becoming drug dealers buying weed to smuggle back to the Midwest. Made more money doing that than with solar.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 2/12/25 at 3:05 pm to
Posted by 200MPHCOBRA
Metairie
Member since Nov 2016
474 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 3:08 pm to
Its not a lot of delta T to make power out of unless you're already hitting a hot spot. It will take a lot of heat exchanging.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16286 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 3:14 pm to
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Anything on nuclear yet?


Small modular reactors have been slowly moving forward even under Biden. Can't really rush nuclear.

Should be interesting to see how energy development goes in my area of the country with it being federally run. All the EOs apply such as hiring freeze. Can't go over the debt limit, they have to basically rebuild their office complex for RTO, and some how get congress that is currently on the DOGE kick to raise the debt limit so they can build a bunch new power plants to meet the power needs of all these data centers coming into the area. The coal plants shutdown already are too far gone to bring back. And the ones not shutdown are gonna need investment bigger than just building something new. I am sure Elon is going to want his AI data centers powered over the homes in this area getting power, but he doesn't want to give the federal people money, so they can't build more power plants. Should get interesting to see who gets power and how much power rates go up in this area.
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