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Tucker interview with Mike Benz on USAID scandal. Discussion of how to move forward
Posted on 2/7/25 at 10:56 pm
Posted on 2/7/25 at 10:56 pm
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If tweet fails to load, click here. This interview goes into a lot more nuance of potential side effects of gutting our gigantic global charade and how it will have to be handled delicately.
They go into how this ties into domestic subversion efforts such as the 2020 riots. Benz was being pretty cagey about it and I think he is being cautious because he realizes that this has the potential to rip the country apart.
That’s where I find myself now with my reflections. How do we get past this? I tell my relatives who I talk to about this stuff sometimes that “if everyone in America felt as disillusioned about the country as I do, the whole thing would collapse tomorrow”.
I think about this a lot, because I’m not an accelerationist. There is going to have to be some kind of national reckoning that not only satisfies the right’s bloodlust, but also opens the eyes of the normie left so that they can see what was going on and accept it.
There’s a French philosopher named Rene Girard who has something called Mimetic Theory and a concept of the scapegoat. He theorizes that cultures and societies have a sort of cultural genesis moment where they overcome some threat and make an example of a scapegoat, and this forms the foundation of their collective consciousness and sense of their place in the world. Examples of this would be the civil war with the south being made the scapegoat while overcoming the evil of slavery, and the most recent example of our cultural genesis was beating the Nazis and having the ceremonial sacrifice of the scapegoat during the Nuremberg trials.
These symbolic sacrifices help a society cope with the trauma of the bad things they had to do during the period of overcoming the obstacles.
What we’re going through right now feels like one of these recycling periods with a new cultural genesis. We are going to have to have a moment that galvanizes everyone and has a symbolic scapegoat, and many people are gonna have to face real consequences (Steve Bannon has been saying things along these lines). If we don’t do this we are going to have the whole population completely lose faith, and either a harsh authoritarian regime will have to wrangle it back into order, or it’s going to completely collapse.
This post was edited on 2/7/25 at 11:08 pm
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Posted on 2/7/25 at 11:00 pm to OBReb6
I don't give a shite what the progressive, liberal pieces of shite think or feel right now.
They've tried to ruin our lives for 4 years and more. The pendulum became a wrecking ball and I'm here for it.
And then we have the crooked, thieving, shitstains in DC.
The tide has turned, and true Americans are finally taking the country back.
They've tried to ruin our lives for 4 years and more. The pendulum became a wrecking ball and I'm here for it.
And then we have the crooked, thieving, shitstains in DC.
The tide has turned, and true Americans are finally taking the country back.
Posted on 2/7/25 at 11:03 pm to Oates Mustache
Your reaction is a good example of what I’m talking about. I larp as a quasi fascist on here some, but what you’re describing as basically ruthless vengeance is going to result in right wing authoritarianism. Is that really what you want? I’d rather have a new cultural genesis personally.
This post was edited on 2/7/25 at 11:04 pm
Posted on 2/7/25 at 11:06 pm to OBReb6
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but what you’re describing as basically ruthless vengeance is going to result in right wing authoritarianism.
Get the frick out of here. This is nothing but righting a ship that has been teetering on sinking forever for a long long time.
Posted on 2/7/25 at 11:08 pm to Y.A. Tittle
I don’t think y'all understand how big the ramifications of this are and are going to be
Posted on 2/7/25 at 11:08 pm to Oates Mustache
The only people remotely ready for a reveal of the magnitude Benz is tracking followed a long deleted thread, and even with that foresight , I’m not sure if those minds won’t get blown.
Posted on 2/7/25 at 11:27 pm to Oates Mustache
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I don't give a shite what the progressive, liberal pieces of shite think or feel right now.
They've tried to ruin our lives for 4 years and more. The pendulum became a wrecking ball and I'm here for it.
And then we have the crooked, thieving, shitstains in DC.
The tide has turned, and true Americans are finally taking the country back.
The problem with this mindset is that the pendulum always swings back as long as the system stays a representative democracy and even if not then the swing back comes eventually but just bloodier. It is fruitless to distill politics down to grievance. If politics end up being oriented around just making people you don't like mad, it isn't really making anything better on the long view because this will be paid back to your team in time. I'd much rather see a political movement centered on the positive program than the retribution against political foes and people with ideological differences. It may be gratifying to people when their partisanship is winning but it is empty calories without the core positive program that cuts through the differences and just tries to make things better.
Posted on 2/7/25 at 11:32 pm to Diego Ricardo
Good post
We are I think in the moment where we cannot go any farther in these 4 year swings without an all out war. The Biden regime did countless unprecedented, horrible things. Trump comes back against all odds, and has gone completely scorched earth in a way I didn’t think he ever would.
The thing is though, with what they are doing, there’s no going back. They have to take it all the way, and give the left a real defeat, the kind that is not recovered from for 1-2 decades, or we are screwed. If they fumble this in 2-4 years, the response will be unbearable. They know this, and it’s why there’s no half measures.
This has to be fixed, in these 4 years. If it’s not we are in deep existential trouble.
We are I think in the moment where we cannot go any farther in these 4 year swings without an all out war. The Biden regime did countless unprecedented, horrible things. Trump comes back against all odds, and has gone completely scorched earth in a way I didn’t think he ever would.
The thing is though, with what they are doing, there’s no going back. They have to take it all the way, and give the left a real defeat, the kind that is not recovered from for 1-2 decades, or we are screwed. If they fumble this in 2-4 years, the response will be unbearable. They know this, and it’s why there’s no half measures.
This has to be fixed, in these 4 years. If it’s not we are in deep existential trouble.
Posted on 2/7/25 at 11:32 pm to OBReb6
Screw this guy
Justifying this crap at usaid..
Burn it down
Justifying this crap at usaid..
Burn it down
Posted on 2/8/25 at 12:00 am to OBReb6
It will be a success if 4 years from now, even a progressive could look at the situation and say “my life is better now than it was before.”
You win the ideological/political battlefield by it being made clear your way of seeing it is the best way to organize society. Trying to vanquish opposition only assures the opposition never stops fighting. You rather they just surrender.
You win the ideological/political battlefield by it being made clear your way of seeing it is the best way to organize society. Trying to vanquish opposition only assures the opposition never stops fighting. You rather they just surrender.
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Posted on 2/8/25 at 12:05 am to Diego Ricardo
The element that worries me is there is potential for an unavoidable economic collapse over these 4 years and it could happen as soon as this year. The administration will have to make very wise decisions, and even then it’s not guaranteed they can navigate it.
Bad indicators all over, but especially in Europe
Bad indicators all over, but especially in Europe
Posted on 2/8/25 at 1:28 am to OBReb6
I think Mike has come to the realization that it takes a government willing to do a few bad things and lie to its people in order to hold the place together.
Posted on 2/8/25 at 3:13 am to Diego Ricardo
I prefer brutal annihilation, destruction of leftist/Marxist lives and subjugation...as they have been trying to do to the American people for decades.
The democratic party has been taken over by a collection of communists, Marxists and other unsavory riffraff. The time is now.
The democratic party has been taken over by a collection of communists, Marxists and other unsavory riffraff. The time is now.
Posted on 2/8/25 at 3:29 am to OBReb6
USAID is just one of the many government agencies that waste money from U.S. taxpayers. It's time someone really looks into each one to see if they are actually using the money like they say they are. I would venture to say if half the government agencies went away no one would notice the difference. I hate that people would lose their jobs but too be honest many of those jobs shouldnt have been created in the first place.
Posted on 2/8/25 at 3:49 am to OBReb6
Honestly, this shouldn't be a shock to anyone. You have to be a special kind of stupid to not know that the feds have engaged in every kind of corrupt behavior for decades now. The real problem is the useful idiots on the Left who follow people Maxine Waters & somehow stand opposed to transparency in government bc AOC says Elon wants your SSN.
Posted on 2/8/25 at 4:02 am to Diego Ricardo
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than the retribution against political foes and people with ideological differences
This is not what is happening. The people you are claiming are just political foes have done serious damage.
They released and lied about covid. They cost a large number of small businesses to close. They arrested people for minor crimes and gave them such harsh sentences that some killed themselves. They let our loved ones die alone while they intentionally infected them.
They stole from us and used our money to trans kids. They funded riots and left wing activists. They overthrow foreign governments. They stole an election and tried to imprison and kill a president.
Do you not understand the severity of their actions? They are CRIMINALS, not political opponents. It is not retribution. It is justice. If there is no punishment for the crimes, they will do it again.
Being too scared to take action because of what the democrats might do is the old way of thinking. It didn’t work. It's time to grow a pair and try something new. Change will never happen by worrying that you're doing too many things the people trying to destroy you and your country won't like.
Posted on 2/8/25 at 4:05 am to OBReb6
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Your reaction is a good example of what I’m talking about.
No one cares. Not caring what progressives think and taking a reckingball to their political money laundering schemes isn't authoritarian. Stop being a bitch and let the adults handle this one.
Posted on 2/8/25 at 6:22 am to OBReb6
I agree we need "soft influence" but always go back to the beginning.
In his example he talks about how maybe transgenders were the vehicle to drive change in Bangledesh. My issue.......who made this decision? That is where the problem lies. The people like nuland making these decisions based on "their" data.
And who decided to use the same tactics internally? The overwhelming shift to trans, blm, illegals are okay, defund police, no bail, lax DAs, no theft under 750 dollars? These were far far removed from what the republic wanted (remove the vote tampering and it is even more far removed). Who thought this was a good idea to use such unpopular concepts to rip the country apart, it could be the only purpose, and to what end?
In his example he talks about how maybe transgenders were the vehicle to drive change in Bangledesh. My issue.......who made this decision? That is where the problem lies. The people like nuland making these decisions based on "their" data.
And who decided to use the same tactics internally? The overwhelming shift to trans, blm, illegals are okay, defund police, no bail, lax DAs, no theft under 750 dollars? These were far far removed from what the republic wanted (remove the vote tampering and it is even more far removed). Who thought this was a good idea to use such unpopular concepts to rip the country apart, it could be the only purpose, and to what end?
Posted on 2/8/25 at 6:26 am to OBReb6
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I larp as a quasi fascist on here
Go do that dumb shite somewhere else.
Posted on 2/8/25 at 6:31 am to OBReb6
It's funny you started this thread because I just read piece from Chris Hedges that was a little confusing to me at first. Chris goes on and on about how USAID is a tool of empire. So, I think he would celebrate its dismantling. But, his point seems to be that the ripping apart of a power structure like USAID will hasten our collapse. Most people won't like this because Chris is pretty far left and critical of Trump.
The Empire Self Destructs.
The Empire Self Destructs.
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