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Biden Admin controlled Meta/Twatter and sucked Ukraine into fighting Russia

Posted on 1/16/25 at 6:14 am
Posted by Lsucassa
Trolling from my Garbage Can
Member since Oct 2024
475 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 6:14 am
...and Trump admin is the dangerous oligarchy?

I hope like hell Trump gets election integrity sorted out and we get a JD win in 2028, if the dems win we are screwed.


Biden's farewell and the rhetoric in hearings for Trump's nominees are a warning that this country should not overlook.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
156451 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 6:40 am to
The NYTimes reported Biden was complaining early-on about Garland not going after Trump more quickly. Biden wanted Trump jailed. Full.Stop.

Biden also had intel spread the rumor they were adding Ukraine to NATO which the democrats didn't care was breaking treaty with Russia.

The Biden State Dept admitted Trumps team was critical in the agreements in Israel. When the Biden WH was asked they had no clue who the State Dept Spox was that said this.

Biden said 'he let' the Trump admin in on what they were doing.

Biden is a plagiarizing liar POS.

Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
10813 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 7:19 am to
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which the democrats didn't care was breaking treaty with Russia.


I generally agree with you sentiments, but what treaty?
Posted by tadman
Member since Jun 2020
4745 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 7:20 am to
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Biden said 'he let' the Trump admin in on what they were doing.

Biden is a plagiarizing liar POS.


If Biden could've done this deal on his own, he would've a long time ago. In reality he signs what people put in front of him and doesn't know what day it is.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
24528 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 7:23 am to
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Biden also had intel spread the rumor they were adding Ukraine to NATO which the democrats didn't care was breaking treaty with Russia.


Treaty?
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
95699 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 7:23 am to
Trump should snub Biden after last night and not show up to the tea, etc
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
156451 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 7:27 am to
The Brookings Institute has tried to do revisionist history---

But when Gorbachev and Reagan made the tear down the wall, deal. It was in the deal/treaty that NATO would not expand.

Biden leaked to Russia that they were admitting Ukraine into NATO; and practically begged Putin to invade Ukraine by speaking about it for days until they did.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
30259 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 7:27 am to
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Biden Admin controlled Meta/Twatter and sucked Ukraine into fighting Russia


Absolute cunning statesmanship from Biden tricking Ukrainians into defending their country from Russian invaders.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
17620 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 7:29 am to
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I generally agree with you sentiments, but what treaty?

My understanding is that it was a verbal gentlemens' agreement that was never put into writing.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
24528 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 7:31 am to
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It was in the deal/treaty that NATO would not expand.


Fake News.

There was no treaty. If it happened it was verbal. Nothing on paper and nothing signed.

Some of you people will believe and spread anything.
This post was edited on 1/16/25 at 7:33 am
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
82536 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 7:36 am to
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But when Gorbachev and Reagan made the tear down the wall, deal. It was in the deal/treaty that NATO would not expand.

Biden leaked to Russia that they were admitting Ukraine into NATO; and practically begged Putin to invade Ukraine by speaking about it for days until they did.


Jesus Christ. This is why we can’t have nice things.
Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
16931 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 7:36 am to
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Biden leaked to Russia that they were admitting Ukraine into NATO; and practically begged Putin to invade Ukraine by speaking about it for days until they did.


So really Biden sucked Russia into attacking Ukraine then, not the other way around.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
24528 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 7:41 am to
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But when Gorbachev and Reagan made the tear down the wall, deal. It was in the deal/treaty that NATO would not expand.

Biden leaked to Russia that they were admitting Ukraine into NATO; and practically begged Putin to invade Ukraine by speaking about it for days until they did.


This is a cajundramaqueen classic whopper.

Talk about Tin foil.

Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
156451 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 7:50 am to
Archived documents of the National Security Archive at George Washington University. "NOT ONE INCH EASTWARD"

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Declassified documents show security assurances against NATO expansion to Soviet leaders from Baker, Bush, Genscher, Kohl, Gates, Mitterrand, Thatcher, Hurd, Major, and Woerner

Slavic Studies Panel Addresses “Who Promised What to Whom on NATO Expansion?”

Published: Dec 12, 2017
Briefing Book #613
Svetlana Savranskaya and Tom Blanton

Washington D.C., December 12, 2017 – U.S. Secretary of State James Baker’s famous “not one inch eastward” assurance about NATO expansion in his meeting with Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev on February 9, 1990, was part of a cascade of assurances about Soviet security given by Western leaders to Gorbachev and other Soviet officials throughout the process of German unification in 1990 and on into 1991, according to declassified U.S., Soviet, German, British and French documents posted today by the National Security Archive at George Washington University https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/
Posted by RohanGonzales
Member since Apr 2024
4611 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 7:54 am to
That dinette set is gauche. Surely we can all agree?
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
24528 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 7:57 am to
You called it a treaty.

An assurance is what Ukraine received in the Budapest Memorandum. How did that work out?

Anything that says Assurance isn't worth the paper it was written on. To my knowledge there wasn't even written assurances from Baker. Nothing was ever adopted by either side.

Take your loss on this one.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
156451 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 7:58 am to
I thought the same thing. What is the story on that table?

More historic photos here

https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/russia-programs/2017-12-12/nato-expansion-what-gorbachev-heard-western-leaders-early

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281843 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 7:59 am to

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If Biden could've done this deal on his own, he would've a long time ago. In reality he signs what people put in front of him and doesn't know what day it is.


Yep, we've had a vacant presidency for years. Biden hasnt done anything worth crediting, he just does what he is told.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
87005 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 8:00 am to
How embarrassing for Skut. Dudes never right about anything
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
156451 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 8:08 am to
Treaty/Deal/Agreement. "NOT ONE INCH EASTWARD"

I take no loss that is silly. Consult Oliver Stone's War On Ukraine video at Rumble. It has more details, you can post it in the OT cognitively impaired Ukraine thread.

The discussion comes down to the way business/agreements even in govt- were done back when a man's word -especially in a diplomatic status- was golden.

It is in writing though. I do not care to argue that they didn't have a notary seal the deal.

The newer movie entitled 'Reagan', showed the way Reagan did deals was on horseback.

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U.S. Secretary of State James Baker’s famous “not one inch eastward” assurance about NATO expansion in his meeting with Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev on February 9, 1990, was part of a cascade of assurances
This post was edited on 1/16/25 at 8:13 am
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